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bamagary
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its really war on Americans rights. why else would they bug are phones. and our Internet. its time to wake up and march on Washington. are leaders have forgot what we the people means. look at polls about Iraq. 60 percent of Americans want out of Iraq. but our leaders. are still there.
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| Jul 1 @ 4:15 PM |
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nah12
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bug are phones ... dang Gary i didn't know phones were bugs now...... 
60 percent of Americans want out of Iraq. but our leaders. are still there. dang did they move Washington to Iraq Gary?
[Edited on 7/1/2008 4:17 PM]
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| Jul 1 @ 4:16 PM |
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bamagary
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hell bet only TV you watch is American top model. that's about on your level.
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| Jul 1 @ 4:21 PM |
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nah12
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hell bet only TV you watch is American top model. that's about on your level. hell bet? what did they bet on Gary......
so you watch that show Gary? is that where you get your views from Gary? Did you not say you respected women? MY MY MY...
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| Jul 1 @ 4:22 PM |
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bamagary
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i usually do. but take accepting with you.. i bet you can sneak up on a date, bet you weight 300 pounds. that's why you wont show your face.
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| Jul 1 @ 4:30 PM |
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nah12
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bet you weight 300 pounds. that's why you wont show your face. ...... and you just said but take accepting with you
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| Jul 1 @ 4:38 PM |
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onoudn
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I always wondered about that term " war on terrorism"......terrorism is an alternative to war that countries use because they can' t wage war, right ? I mean that's what I was always taught. Terrorism is so "effective" because it's sneaky, unexpected, and incites terror because of it. It's like the KKK in America. They are basicially cowards who are afraid to show their faces. Terrorist are the same. War, for lack of better terms, has a certain honor, and rules, and such. Terrorism does not. I'm not advocating war over terrorism here. I'm just saying the term "war on terrorism" has never sat right with me.
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| Jul 1 @ 4:40 PM |
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eastham
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Terrorism is a tactic, it isn't even a strategy. How do you have a war on a tactic?
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| Jul 1 @ 4:41 PM |
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bamagary
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i was raised in Alabama. have heard of kkk. i no what they stand for. but I'm white like them. but i,m not a full blooded American. so they hate me to.. i can recall always hating george wallace as a kid.
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| Jul 1 @ 4:43 PM |
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Novalite
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Terrorism is a tactic, it isn't even a strategy. How do you have a war on a tactic?
Semantics. It is actually the 'Campaign Against Qutbism' but if you said that to anybody outside of a few people on this forum nobody would understand it. They do understand bombs, ranting freaks and all though hence, it is called what people can understand. It certainly takes nothing away as all actions taken in the war on terror are for the end against Qutbism so, the name is of little importance and only a fool mired in triviality would use this as a major point for, or against anything..
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| Jul 1 @ 4:48 PM |
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bamagary
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i personally think. the best way to stop everyone from killing each other. is to teach Muslim kids at a young age .not all Americans. or israel people are bad. i will admit. when i get on a plane and see a Muslim. i think. if he moves i,m on his ass.
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| Jul 1 @ 4:52 PM |
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nah12
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Terrorism means activities against persons, organizations or property of any nature committed by an individual or individuals acting on behalf of any foreign person or foreign interest:
1. that involve the following or preparation for the following:
a. use or threat of force or violence; or
b. commission or threat of a dangerous act; or
c. commission or threat of an act that interferes with or disrupts an
electronic communication, information, or mechanical system; and
2. when at least one of the following applies:
a. the effect is to intimidate or coerce a government or the civilian
population or any segment thereof, or to disrupt any segment of the
economy; or
b. it appears that the intent is to intimidate or coerce a government,
or further political, ideological, religious, social or economic
objectives or to express (or express opposition to) a philosophy
or ideology. from Property-Liability Trust Glossary
Terrorism is defined by the U.S. Department of Defense as "the unlawful use of -- or threatened use of -- force or violence against individuals or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives." from pbs.org
Terrorism
The use of - or threatened use of - criminal violence against civilians or civilian infrastructure to achieve political ends through fear and intimidation, rather than direct confrontation. Emergency management is typically concerned with the consequences of terrorist acts directed against large numbers of people (as opposed to political assassination or hijacking, which may also be considered "terrorism"). from readycolorado.com/glossary
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| Jul 1 @ 4:53 PM |
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Nightowl001
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Semantics. It is actually the 'Campaign Against Qutbism' An only a complete hypocrite would run around parsing about "Bush never said the word "imminent" and then dismiss a point as "semantics." Isn't it a pain in the a$$ to shave that many faces every morning? 
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| Jul 1 @ 4:56 PM |
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bamagary
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you people terrorist our my freedom fighters.
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| Jul 1 @ 5:01 PM |
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nah12
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you people terrorist our my freedom fighters. yep sounds just like an American huh??
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| Jul 1 @ 5:06 PM |
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Novalite
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NO An only a complete hypocrite would run around parsing about "Bush never said the word "imminent" and then dismiss a point as "semantics."
gee nightowl, I already said a few times it was mis titled and once again here, I explained why. I have also explained that there is no purpose served by spending an inordinate amount of time discussing the semantics of a title when we all know exactly what it means.
NOIsn't it a pain in the a$$ to shave that many faces every morning?
Is this a similar claim to your wrongful contention that my " "facts" are most usually links to right-wing opinion pieces, that in turn use right wing opinion pieces to bolster their arguments,"
You remember that argument don't you Night owl? The one where you attempted to lie in order to win it? You know, the one where you attempted (and failed) to prove how the head of one of the nations Peace institutes was a frothing right wing moron?
Well no, my arguments are always the same and use the same impartial sources to provide the facts. If you have a problem dealing with that then I suggest Dr laura might help you but to accuse others of lying is BS considering you are among one of the worst offenders on this site.
I suppose you will now reach into your bag of dirty nakmes and assign me one. Oh well. 
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| Jul 1 @ 5:17 PM |
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Nightowl001
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You remember that argument don't you Night owl? As I recall, that was the one in which you failed to ever present any actual facts, just a lot of opinion, and more opinion, backed up only by other opinion. But since you can't tell the difference between the truth and a lie, or have any concept of what Logic is and can't read English and understand what you're reading, I really don't expect anything different. It doesn't really matter to me if you run around "knowing" (mistakenly) you're right when you're not. (That's a common trait in many of the mentally ill I have dealt with over the years.) I have no compulsion to educate you. I just use you for an example.
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| Jul 1 @ 5:20 PM |
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Novalite
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Yes, the one in which the world's foremost leaders in intelligence and Middle Eastern experts who testify in front of the Intelligence Committees and such explained what and why things occurred.
That would be it. 
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| Jul 1 @ 7:12 PM |
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onoudn
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War should be understood as an actual, intentional and widespread armed conflict between political communities. Thus, fisticuffs between individual persons do not count as a war, nor does a gang fight, nor does a feud on the order of the Hatfields versus the McCoys. War is a phenomenon which occurs only between political communities, defined as those entities which either are states or intend to become states (in order to allow for civil war).
Certain political pressure groups, like terrorist organizations, might also be considered “political communities,” in that they are associations of people with a political purpose and, indeed, many of them aspire to statehood or to influence the development of statehood in certain lands
But we're at "war" with terrorist in general which doesn't seem to apply, right ? And I don't pretend to understand the complicated political faction we're dealing with here. I take confort in the fact that it all even confused Mc Cain. And I'm not even running for President.
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| Jul 1 @ 7:13 PM |
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onoudn
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here ya go.....sorry forgot the link
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