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ThangelM8
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By Sarah Ovaska, Staff Writer
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RALEIGH - Jesse Helms,the former U.S. Senator, television editorialist and key figure in the country's conservative movement, died at 1:15 a.m. today in Raleigh, according to a statement released late this morning by the Jesse Helms Center in Wingate.
Funeral arrangements will be forthcoming.
Helms has had serious health problems since he left office in January, 2003, ending a 30-year congressional career. He had spent time in and out of hospitals and was diagnosed in recent years with vascular dementia.
While serving in Washington, Helms served as the powerful chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He was also a divisive figure in American politics. The Raleigh politician frequently spoke in favor of segregation when he was a TV commentator in Raleigh in the 1960s. While in office, he opposed nearly every civil rights bill.
In his 2005 memoir "Here's Where I Stand," Helms reflected on that time.
"I did not advocate segregation, and I did not advocate aggravation," Helms wrote. "By that I mean that I thought it was wrong for people who did not know, and who did not care, about the relationships between neighbors and friends to force their ideas about how communities should work on the people who had built those communities in the first place. I believed right would prevail as people followed their own consciences."
Helms won his first political race and a seat on the Raleigh City Council in 1957. He served two terms. Elected to the U.S. Senate in 1972, he spent about 30 years representing North Carolina in the national arena. Helms was the first Republican senator from North Carolina since Reconstruction.
An obituary and look at Helms' life and influence will be in tomorrow's News & Observer.
I thought this might be of interest to some of you; although I personally didn't care for a lot of what he stood for. (JMO)
[Edited on 7/4/2008 11:31 AM]
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| Jul 4 @ 12:12 PM |
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uab_5
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I can't hate a man in death despite that I hated his politics in life.
Jesus taught that if one asks for forgiveness for one's sins from Him and have faith in Him, all will be forgiven.
I sincerely hope that Mr. Helms realized the error of his evil ways, repented, and tried to make ammends to those his words and actions hurt - unless he wished to spend an eternity of damnation.
R.I.P. Jesse Helms
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| Jul 4 @ 12:41 PM |
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bamagary
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i guess even the devil works on holidays. i,m sure hell has reserved a space for helms.
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| Jul 4 @ 12:43 PM |
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alivenwell351
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Jesse Helms was a product of his times and where he was from...
Though there was plenty to disagree with him on, you always knew where he stood on something in no uncertain terms. He didn't shift his views depending on how the wind was blowing at the time. He didn't waver depending on what the polls said in any given hour. He didn't tell people what he thought they might want to hear whoring for votes. And like him or not, in a way that puts him heads and shoulders above the opportunistic slimeballs passing themselves off as our government these days.
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| Jul 4 @ 1:20 PM |
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uab_5
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Jesse Helms was a product of his times and where he was from...
The same was true for Alabama's late Governor George C. Wallace or South Carolinia's Senator Strom Thurmond.
Still, their voices hurt many people and left an embarasing legacy for the region to clean up from.
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| Jul 4 @ 4:21 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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Just goes to show'ya......good things come to those who wait!       
Jesse Helms address for those that care..
Jesse Helms
300 Fire Road 4 miles South of Hell
c/o...Beelzebub! 
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| Jul 4 @ 4:50 PM |
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nah12
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Not every truth is the better for showing its face undisguised; and often silence is the wisest thing for a man to heed. – Pindar
well said Alive...
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| Jul 4 @ 7:34 PM |
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GraceUnderFire747
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How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct. -- Benjamin Disraeli
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| Jul 4 @ 7:44 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Senator Jesse Helms was right in his stand against Communism and his "hawk" political stance on the US Senate Foreign Affairs Committee. it is appropriate that he died on the 4th of July, having been a patriotic favorite son of North Carolina.
I predict the future launching of a USS Naval Warship to be named the USS Jesse Helms.
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| Jul 4 @ 7:48 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Hopefully a garbage scow...
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| Jul 4 @ 8:31 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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So what class of naval vessel do YOU think the Pentagon will name after YOU?
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| Jul 4 @ 8:45 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Not every national-level politician gets a boat named after them. It's quite unusual that three consecutive US presidents (two of them still living) have or will have boats named after them. (Hopefully, they'll skip Clinton and Bush Jr.)
We don't produce that many ships. And the navy has traditionally named ships after legacy names (hence, the CVN-65, the USS Enterprise, the eighth ship in the Revolutionary/US Navy to bear the name).
So if Helms is given a ship in his honor, chances are there'll only be garbage scows or tugboats or something of the sort left.
Either that, or wait until around six years from now, when the pendulum starts swinging right again, and a friendlier Congress will name one of the Ford-class CVNs after him. CVN-80 will probably be available...
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| Jul 4 @ 8:47 PM |
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Angel54214
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Para...
USS Sweet Tuscany vs. USS Napa Drunk Tank
Depending upon the left and right 
Just being funny here ok? 
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| Jul 4 @ 8:52 PM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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I'd prefer USS St. Napa, if you please. And, of course, it would be one of those square-mile offshore floating brownwater fortresses that Para keeps harping about.
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| Jul 4 @ 10:36 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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If there is ever a naval ship named after that repugnant piece of sh*t....then there should also be a USS Benedict Arnold christened the same damn day!  
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| Jul 5 @ 12:12 AM |
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uab_5
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Arnold was a hero until he tried to surrender West Point to the redcoats.
It's a pity one oh sh^t should've wiped out at history of atta boys.
Name a sub after Arnold. That way no one can see it...heck even the most incompentant POTUSA in living memory, Jimmy Carter, has a Seawolf named after him. 
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| Jul 5 @ 12:19 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Carter was a submariner, so he has a sub named after him. Bush Sr. was an aviator, so he has an aircraft carrier named after him. Reagan... Well, he did lots of war movies, so not only does he have an aircraft carrier named after him, but also the sub-class of the Nimitz class as well. (Yes, I know, the 600-ship navy.)
And I'd put Carter (who had to deal with being undermined by his director of the CIA...) up against Bush Jr. any day. Bush Jr. is in the running for most corrupt president in history, giving Grant a run for the money.
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| Jul 5 @ 12:27 AM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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I'd put Carter (who had to deal with being undermined by his director of the CIA...) up against Bush Jr. any day.
Carter was an incompetent dreamer and a Mama's boy. GWB is a man's man among loyalists.
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| Jul 5 @ 12:29 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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GWB is a man's man among loyalists
ROFLMAO...
Oh, Para, you never fail to amuse with your delusions. While his loyalists (which seems to be the virtue most admired by Bush, and not competence or patriotism or intelligence or...) may at least publicly consider him a man's man, the man couldn't do anything if his handlers weren't whispering in his ear.
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| Jul 5 @ 12:58 AM |
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uab_5
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Carter was also one of my heroe's, Admiral Rickover, first officers and CO, IRCC, of a cruiser.
He had a brilliant naval career, unlike Trash a Skyhawk McCain.
Junior, like so many liars and thieves, relied on loyalty to stay in power rather than job performance.
Personally, I'd like to see the USN name a target hulk after Junior because that's what has happened to so much of the USN under his administrator: the entire Spurance Class DDs were destroyed in SINKEX's!
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