| Jul 31 @ 2:18 AM |
Radovan Karadzic War Crime Fugitive Has Been Captured and Arraigned
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Paralegal_at_Law
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To my mind Karadzic is a definite candidate for a death penalty
It would seem so, although I still insist in due process of law, legal representation, trial by jury, innocent until proven guilty, the right to confront witnesses against the defendant, the right of freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures, the application of the exclusionary rule for all fruit of the poisoned tree, the application of the rules of criminal procedure, briefings by Amicus Curiae, and final appellate review by the US Supreme Court.
Then we can publicly execute him.
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| Jul 31 @ 6:22 AM |
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CPUfan
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Or feed him to the Bosnian Muslims in Srebreniza?   
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| Jul 31 @ 1:26 PM |
Radovan Karadzic War Crime Fugitive Has Been Captured and Arraigned
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Paralegal_at_Law
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Associated Press. THE HAGUE, Netherlands - Former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic appeared at the U.N.'s Yugoslav war crimes tribunal for the first time Thursday, telling the judge he would defend himself against charges of genocide and crimes against humanity.
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Appearing older and thinner than during the Bosnian war and shorn of the long white hair and bushy beard that once disguised him, Karadzic refused to enter pleas on the 11 charges against him or have his full indictment read to him.
He also claimed he cut a deal in 1996 with a U.S. negotiator to drop out of public life, apparently in return for his indictment being scrapped.
The United States has in the past denied his family's claims that negotiator Richard Holbrooke made such a deal with Karadzic, and the judge did not allow him to fully explain his version of events.
"This is not the appropriate moment," presiding judge Alphons Orie said, suggesting that Karadzic write a legal submission.
"I must say that this is a matter of life and death. If Mr. Holbrooke still wants my death and regrets that there is no death sentence here, I wonder if his arm is long enough to reach me here," Karadzic said before he was cut off.
In a July 26 interview with Germany's Spiegel Online International, Holbrooke was asked about rumors he made a deal with Karadzic that if he retired from politics he would not be sent to the Hague.
"Those are lies I do not comment on any longer," Holbrooke said at the time.
Karadzic said he would act as his own lawyer — as did his mentor, former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic. The move caused Milosevic's trial to be repeatedly interrupted and delayed when Milosevic fell ill or suffered fatigue. He died in 2006 while being tried on genocide charges.
"I have an invisible adviser but I have decided to represent myself," Karadzic calmly told Orie.
It was his first appearance before the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal, and came just 10 days after he was arrested on a Belgrade bus after 13 years on the run from justice.
A member of Karadzic's legal team said Karadzic will go on hunger strike if he is not allowed to defend himself in his genocide trial.
"It is his basic right to defend himself," lawyer Svetozar Vujacic said in Belgrade, adding that Karadzic "will insist on that even if he has to go on hunger strike."
Karadzic, who smiled at times during the hearing, listened intently as Orie read a summary of the indictment in which prosecutors allege Karadzic masterminded atrocities, including the Srebrenica massacre and siege of Sarajevo during Bosnia's 1992-95 war.
Karadzic declined to have the full indictment read to him.
"I am not interested in having someone else read the indictment to me," he said. "I would rather receive the new indictment that has been announced and have sufficient time to study it and then have my initial appearance for that and enter my plea."
Prosecutor Serge Brammertz confirmed that he was planning to amend the indictment but gave no further details.
Orie scheduled a new hearing on Aug. 29 at which Karadzic will have to enter pleas. If he does not, the court will enter not guilty pleas for him.
In the Bosnian capital, coffee bars showed Karadzic's hearing on giant flat-screen TVs.
"It's him," said Elvir Kljakic, 27, who lost his father and brother during the war. "It's the beast. I did not believe it until now."
"I'm happy and sad at the same time," said Alena Tiro, 42. "Happy because the world seems to be not as bad as I thought so far if it forced him to the courtroom. Sad because 100,000 people he killed are not watching this."
In the small office of the Association of the Mothers of Srebrenica, about 20 widows watched the broadcast.
"There is the trash," one of them said when Karadzic appeared. Three women burst into tears.
"I have not found one bone of my children yet and there he is — alive," said Ramiza Music, 52, who lost two teenage sons, a husband and two brothers in the Srebrenica massacre. "Today I feel there is a bit of justice in this otherwise really pitiful world."
In court, Karadzic identified himself by stating his name, date and place of birth. He also gave his most recent address as his family home in Pale, Bosnia, but also gave the address of the apartment in Belgrade where he was living under an assumed name before his July 21 arrest.
When Orie asked him if his family had known where he was being held, Karadzic smiled and replied "I do not believe there is anyone who does not know that I am in the detention unit."
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| Jul 31 @ 9:36 PM |
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Angel54214
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Karadzic was well prepared in advance of his trial before his capture...
“He was well-prepared for his possible arrest and thinks everything will end well, “ Luka Karadzic told the Russian daily Izvestia.
The authorities who captured Dr Karadzic had confiscated his laptop and more than 50 discs containing documents prepared for his defence, his brother said, adding that Dr Karadzic “hopes for help from Russian diplomacy”.
The Charges:
1 Genocide
2 Complicity in genocide
3 Extermination, a crime against humanity
4 Murder, a crime against humanity
5 Murder, a violation of the customs or laws of war
6 Wilful killing
7 Persecution on political, racial and religious grounds, a crime against humanity
8 Deportation, a crime against humanity
9 Other inhumane act (forcible transfer), a crime against humanity
10 Unlawfully inflicting terror upon citizens, a violation of the laws or customs of war
11 Taking of hostages, a violation of the laws or customs of war
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| Jul 31 @ 9:42 PM |
Radovan Karadzic War Crime Fugitive Has Been Captured and Arraigned
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lefthandedluckie
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I know I am going to say something that will seem bad to some but, this guy is just the type that tried to escape and was shot down trying!
I don't believe in dragging this guys life out, at all!
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| Jul 31 @ 9:43 PM |
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Angel54214
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Radovan Karadzic's nephew may have unwittingly led investigators to the alleged war criminal and could now face prosecution.
Karadzic's lawyers have been adamant that none of his family knew he was living under the disguise of Dr Dragan Dabic, an alternative health guru, and his brother Luka claimed not to have seen him for 12 years.
But that claim has been thrown into serious doubt after it emerged that Luka's son Dragan Karadzic, 30, attended Karadzic's lectures on meditation. The nephew could now be prosecuted for protecting Karadzic and might have led intelligence agents to Karadzic if he was followed to the lectures.
Mila Damjanov, Karadzic's close female companion over the last year, told the Belgrade daily Pravda that a young man whom "Dr Dabic" addressed only as "Sale" frequently attended his lectures. She noticed that they were close, but thought nothing more about it.
After Karadzic's arrest and the revelation of his true identity was made known, she realized that the young man in question was in fact Dragan Karadzic.
With police frequently monitoring his movement and even periodically raiding his home, Luka could not maintain direct contact with his brother, although he is presumed to have known Radovan's alias.
Neither the former Bosnian Serb leader's wife Liljana nor his daughter Sonja knew about "Dr Dabic". Mila says that she found out "Sale's" true identity after Karadzic's arrest.
"The newspapers were saying Dr Dabic and I had been lovers, which was not true, and I wanted to get in touch with some member of the Karadzic family, to tell them the truth of the matter, that we were merely friends.
"And as I thought about how I would do that, on television I saw Radovan's brother Luka standing with his son Dragan, and I realized that Dragan was the same young man whom I often saw at Dr Dabic's lectures, and the whole thing became clear to me.
"Recognising Dragan on television also put me at ease because I knew that Dragan knew the truth about our relationship."
Dragan's frequent attendance at Dr Dabic's lectures may have alerted intelligence officers, who are known to have kept the entire inner circle of the Karadzic family under frequent surveillance.
Serbian authorities have said they discovered Karadzic's double life by monitoring some of Karadzic's close associates.
Karadzic is likely to be extradited to the Hague to face trial for war crimes next week. His lawyer will lodge an appeal tonight, which is likely to be heard on Monday.
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| Jul 31 @ 10:15 PM |
Radovan Karadzic War Crime Fugitive Has Been Captured and Arraigned
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Paralegal_at_Law
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The Charges:
1 Genocide
2 Complicity in genocide
3 Extermination, a crime against humanity
4 Murder, a crime against humanity
5 Murder, a violation of the customs or laws of war
6 Wilful killing
7 Persecution on political, racial and religious grounds, a crime against humanity
8 Deportation, a crime against humanity
9 Other inhumane act (forcible transfer), a crime against humanity
10 Unlawfully inflicting terror upon citizens, a violation of the laws or customs of war
11 Taking of hostages, a violation of the laws or customs of war
This is precisely the kind of guy that I want the proposed League of Free World Nations Crisis Council DMZ Provost Marshals to rid the world of, much to the consternation of the leftist wanks who oppose my posts.
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| Aug 1 @ 12:37 AM |
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kattsmeow
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I know I am going to say something that will seem bad to some but, this guy is just the type that tried to escape and was shot down trying!
I don't believe in dragging this guys life out, at all!
I totally agree!
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| Aug 1 @ 2:26 AM |
Radovan Karadzic War Crime Fugitive Has Been Captured and Arraigned
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Paralegal_at_Law
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I don't believe in dragging this guys life out, at all!
I want the record to be precisely accurate with due process of law before we execute this one.
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| Aug 4 @ 7:19 PM |
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CPUfan
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Yep due process is a sure thing in this case... he's so known to be guilty that you'd be hard pressed to find an extenuating circumstance. The media evidence alone is damning. He was even flaunting his abuses at one point, grinning at artillery bombardments of Srebreniza etc. The UN peace envoy Lord Owen warned him in person that it was all being documented, in an attempt to influence his actions. K acted like he couldn't give a sht. He never imagined for a moment that he would be held to account.
The case is similar to that of Saddam, whose gassings, executions, massacres of opponents were so stark that it was hardly necessary to put a brief together. These megalomaniacs are so bland that you can just take your pick from the thousands of abuses and the sentences would last as many years as there were victims.
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| Aug 6 @ 4:04 AM |
Radovan Karadzic War Crime Fugitive Has Been Captured and Arraigned
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Paralegal_at_Law
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The case is similar to that of Saddam, whose gassings, executions, massacres of opponents were so stark that it was hardly necessary to put a brief together.
So why did Saddam's trial take so much time?
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