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crouchingtiger
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http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13076.htm
First, the proof of a birth certificate has been from my understanding been produced, but, if the charges below were to hold up meaning to be proved to be true,
Is there an attorney on this site who can say how Obama can be legally and constitutionally sworn in as president of the U.S.?
If nothing else the explanation will help me to write a fictional story based on this scenario. Thanks
The suit alleges that while records exist of a "registry of birth" for Obama in Hawaii (filed four days after his claimed birthday), no records exist of his mother's stay in any Hawaii hospital, suggesting she may have given birth elsewhere and filed the registration after returning to Hawaii. "Obama's grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya," the suit states. "Reports reflect Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth."
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| Aug 26 @ 11:18 AM |
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eastham
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This subject, including this particular lawsuit, has been discussed ad nauseaum on another thread.
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| Aug 26 @ 11:41 AM |
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crouchingtiger
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I asked one specific question. Read the question.
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| Aug 26 @ 12:20 PM |
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eastham
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Article II of the US Constitution provides that the president must be "natural born". There are scholars who have studied the notes written during the Constitutional Convention and while some believe it was John Jay, in a letter to Washington on July 25, 1787, who advocated the phrase "natural born" there is little other evidence to flesh out the meaning of the term. In addition, this language has never been considered and refined by the Supreme Court or the Congress. Here is an interesting article on the subject with the names of experts in this arcane area. Click here for NYT article. Here is a second article from the Washington Post.
Throughout our history, men has sought (and been allowed to seek) the presidency when they have not been born in the US. One is doing so now...that man is John McCain, who was born on a US military installation. Others include Mitt Romney's father, George, who sought the office of the president although he was born in Mexico -- his father's family had fled to Mexico following Utah's outlawing polygamous marriage. Lowell Weicker, the former Republican Senator from Connecticut who rose to national prominence during the Watergate hearings, was born in Paris to an American diplomat. Barry Goldwater was born in the Arizona territory in 1909, three full years before Arizona became a state. Herbert Hoover's vice president Charles Curtis was born in Kansas before that territory became a state. Chester Arthur was born in Vermont, but his political enemies tried to derail his bid for the Presidency by intimating he had been born in Canada.
In the spring, Democratic Senators McCaskill and Leahy tried to quell concerns that McCain was not a "natural born" citizen by the nature of his birth in Panama. They spearheaded a resolution, cosponsored by the then Democratic challengers Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, and the resolution passed the Senate unanimously. Would this resolution stand the muster of review by the Supreme Court. I can't answer that.
The controversy concerning Obama's birth certificate has had many iterations. There were some whispers that he was ineligible, because he was born before Hawaii became a state. That turned out to be false. Hawaii became a state in March 1959 and Barack Obama was born there in August 1961, two full years after Hawaii became a state. This is all mute anyway, as the State of Hawaii has confirmed (until they turned blue in the face) that Obama's birth certificate is valid. The spokesperson for the State of Hawaii indicated that the State had redacted the serial number on the birth certificate, because of fear of hacking. Given that someone hacked into Obama's passport on three separate occasions this year, click here to read article, that fear is not unfounded.
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| Aug 26 @ 1:12 PM |
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Nightowl001
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The suit alleges that while records exist of a "registry of birth" for Obama in Hawaii (filed four days after his claimed birthday), no records exist of his mother's stay in any Hawaii hospital, suggesting she may have given birth elsewhere and filed the registration after returning to Hawaii. How much Kool-Aid must one drink to be this susceptible to suggestion? 
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| Aug 26 @ 1:18 PM |
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eastham
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And if that were true, would we not have records of Obama's mother's flight or the documentation from her physician that she was healthy enough to fly given the typical prohibitions against allowing women to fly in their 3rd trimester.
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| Aug 26 @ 8:58 PM |
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crouchingtiger
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That means if there are no records of a flight by obama's mama from kenya to hawaii or that she could not safely do so then that would mean he was born in kenya. that means he was not born in the u.s. that means he is not a u.s. citizen, that means he can't be dog catcher in the w.h.
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| Aug 26 @ 9:17 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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If a court rules that Obama is NOT qualified to be president after the Democratic National Convention adjourns, then the Democratic National Committee would possess the power to select a substitute candidate, which happened when US Senator Thomas Eagleton (D-MO), the Democratic nominee for Vice President resigned his endorsement and nomination when it became public that he suffered from a mental condition and had been given repeated electric shock brain therapy, which lead to the advent of Sergeant Shriver being named by the DNC as the substitute VEEP candidate under the presidential ticket lead by US Senator Eugene McCarthy.
However, if any delegate to the Democratic National Convention votes to nominate Obama, then I would suppose that each such delegate would also be a candidate for repeated electric shock brain therapy.
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| Aug 26 @ 9:22 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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This is a stupid thread started by a guy that has major issues!
It has nothing to do with politics or current events!
Instead it asks a hypothetical question that is so outlandish and stupid that it reeeeeks of idiocy!
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| Aug 26 @ 9:25 PM |
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vinnytmd
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This is true. The lawsuit was filed in Phila by the Clintonistas.
After all it is HIGH NOON and Hillary still has time.
http://bobmccarty.com/2008/08/23/lawsuit-challenges-barack-obama-citizenship/
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| Aug 26 @ 9:29 PM |
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crouchingtiger
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This is a stupid thread started by a guy that has major issues!
It has nothing to do with politics or current events!
Instead it asks a hypothetical question that is so outlandish and stupid that it reeeeeks of idiocy
Listen Duckie, this is relevant in that if Obama were born in Kenya because his mother could not fly to Hawaii to deliver him there, then Obama is not:
A U.S. Citizen. Therefore he cannot be sworn in as President.
If the above does stand up and can be proven say nine weeks or so after the DNC convention then the Dems are f***ed royally.
First, all the money in advertising is down the toilet.
Second, they have to pick another to be presidential candidate and I am sure that many would not be happy if Biden were given top billing just because he is V.P. cansdidate as that is not how nominees are picked.
Third, Hillary would have a right to claim top mantle because she was in fact number 2 in the primary race.
But that leaves little time to hold a second
DNC convention to install her as the choice for Prez.
So, get ready for a blood bath if it is in fact proven that Obama was born in Kenya despite the birth record on file. He is screwed and thus the DNC.
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| Aug 26 @ 9:30 PM |
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Nightowl001
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That means if there are no records of a flight by obama's [sic] mama from kenya [sic] to hawaii [sic] Why are you claiming lack of proof that she came BACK from Kenya means anything, when you can't prove she went there? You people are certifiable.
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| Aug 26 @ 9:32 PM |
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vinnytmd
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They have records that they were in Kenya
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| Aug 26 @ 9:37 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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Conspiracy Theoristas! The biggest thing about all the lies being told is....they have been proven lies! Yet the liars still insist being branded stupid!
So be it....they are stupid and shall remain so! 
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| Aug 26 @ 9:40 PM |
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vinnytmd
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Duckie, the Clintonistas filed the Lawsuit. Call Hillary up ASAP and talk sense into her.
She is your _)(&_)(& isn't she ???
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| Aug 26 @ 9:44 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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vinny,iam,gman....prove Clinton filed the law suit! That is all...real simple for a "boy" of your stature!
Just prove what you said!
I win again!
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| Aug 26 @ 9:45 PM |
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vinnytmd
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I did. I posted the link above duckie.
Do I need to tattoo it to your petseleh ???
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| Aug 26 @ 9:52 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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vinny,iam,gman.....Your link is ludicrous! It says nothing about Hillary Clinton filing a law suit!
You are sick and need help, vinny iam gman!
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| Aug 26 @ 10:03 PM |
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vinnytmd
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Sure it does DUCKIE - right in the first paragraph -
Prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter Phillip Berg has filed a lawsuit contesting Barack Obama’s citizenship qualifications to seek the presidency.
Were you looking at the pictures?
Pisk-Malocheh, get your Adult Day Care Nurse to help you out with this stuff.
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| Aug 26 @ 10:09 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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I know you have contracted dementia from your Uncle! You said he had it and you visited him in that "nut" ward! If you had only told us earlier that you are "sick"...we would have understood!
It says nothing about Hillary filing a law suit! You know that. It is just you mind is going, vinny iam gman! We understand now!
Hal-dol vinny iam gman! It will help for a while!
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