| Sep 11 @ 11:24 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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is in need of an ass spanking.
CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez ordered the U.S. ambassador to leave Venezuela in 72 hours and said he was immediately withdrawing his ambassador from Washington.
The move by Chavez brings relations with Washington to a new low and raises questions about whether the diplomatic clash could hurt trade. Venezuela is the fourth-largest oil supplier to the United States, and Chavez threatened on Thursday to cut off crude shipments "if there's any aggression against Venezuela."
I guess this ass jack hasnt been payin attention the last 20 years or so.
let me as you something Mr Hugo, is that a Weapon Of Mass Distruction in your barn?
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| Sep 11 @ 11:28 PM |
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Gman762
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2 Russian long-range Backdraft bombers landed in Venezuela yesterday. They will be doing a new series of "test mission" and flight tests from Venezuela. Expect them to be stationed there permanently. Putin is playing hardball and Hugo is not our friend.
All the more reason to start drilling while we have the time....
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| Sep 11 @ 11:33 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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He has made similar threats in the past, but the United States is his No. 1 oil client and taking such an action would debilitate his government financially. We drill or change current tech. and they can go back to selling rat meat on every street corner for all i care.
I just think this nut case is a bigger worry then Kim and Putin combined.
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| Sep 11 @ 11:37 PM |
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cre8ive1970
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Sounds like Putin is itching for a fight. We need to demolish their respective economies. Russia's economy would almost collapse with the collapse in oil prices. Another reason we need to be drilling.
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| Sep 11 @ 11:37 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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Chavez is the reason we have "aircraft carriers"! And if he gets real stupid he will find out all about that "Big Stick" we carry around! 
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| Sep 11 @ 11:48 PM |
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daisy315
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So true Leftie..
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| Sep 11 @ 11:51 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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Putin is itching for a fight. And Itching hard core.
A country on the verge of slip in world status and beyond the point of bankrupt, can get pretty desperate. A war may be their only option.
Sad.
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| Sep 11 @ 11:59 PM |
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Gman762
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Putin knows we are weak with Bush on the way out and the Dems in control. He knows (as does Chavez) that we are soon to be the country of complete surrender. Look at his recent actions in Georgia and now, the Ukraine. He is playing a dangerous game, but knows that nobody is going to bitch-slap him.
Venezuela is just a piece of Putin's puzzle.
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| Sep 12 @ 12:00 AM |
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lacyvsq
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We need to demolish their respective economies.
 That's a joke! We are the ones whose economy is hanging on by a shoestring. We are the nation with a $450,000+ national debt for every man, woman and child; the nation with monopoly 'money' printed by our owners the World Bank, the nation paying taxes through the purchase of $3-4 gasoline when there is oil in Alaska that can be produced for $3 a barrel that will sustain us for 2 centuries -- but production of which would collapse our funny money.
The Energy Non-Crisis
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| Sep 12 @ 12:08 AM |
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lefthandedluckie
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gman..iam....Posted this blather...."Putin knows we are weak with Bush on the way out and the Dems in control. He knows (as does Chavez) that we are soon to be the country of complete surrender. ....."...!!
That is nothing but, a huge pile of horse dung!
What is happening right now is because of George Bush! The Russians know we are tied down in a never-ending war of attrition in Iraq! Thus, costing us 100's of billions of dollars to date!
Putin knows Bush has destroyed our striking power and can't move anywhere esle at this time because we have no combat strength! It would take us a year or better to train an army of new recruits in order to check him in Georgia!
Yes, we are in dire straights because of George "Dumbya" Bush! 
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| Sep 12 @ 12:13 AM |
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Gman762
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Obviously, you know "spit" about military matters, LOLOL.
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| Sep 12 @ 12:20 AM |
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lefthandedluckie
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You happen to be one of the dumbest people I have ever encountered! And you consider yourself a grown person....give all of us a break.....fellah!
You post no links.....you blather all the time...what "YOU" say is true...yet no links to articles to back up your mouth! You will never grow up will you.
You remind me of that song by the "Beatles" called "Little Child"...
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| Sep 12 @ 12:24 AM |
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Angel54214
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Chavez to seize foreign oil interests
September 11, 2008
Last year, Chavez renegotiated contracts with oil companies to give Venezuela majority ownership in their venezuelan operations. Now he’s just decided to forego those obligations and just buy out the remaining companies.
Lawmakers loyal to President Hugo Chavez gave final approval on Thursday to a bill allowing the Venezuelan government to seize total control of the nation’s fuel distribution.
Under the law, distributors including subsidiaries of British Petroleum, Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp., will have 60 days to negotiate the sale of their businesses to the government or face expropriation.
The National Assembly, which is controlled by Chavez allies, approved the legislation with a near-unanimous vote. Seven lawmakers belonging to Podemos, the only opposition party represented in the 167-seat assembly, voted against the bill.
The law permits Venezuela’s state-run oil company, Petroleos de Venezuela SA, or PDVSA, to take over all wholesale fuel distribution, but allows 67 percent of the country’s gas stations to be privately owned. It also forces wholesale distributors to sell storage tanks and gasoline pumps to PDVSA.
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| Sep 12 @ 12:25 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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Every threads a pissing contest huh? the problem with thatis ya tend to get some on your owns shoes
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| Sep 12 @ 1:08 AM |
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Angel54214
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From Ayer's website: (there's more, but it was too long to post all of it on one page)
President Hugo Chavez, Vice-President Vicente Rangel, Ministers Moncada and Isturiz, invited guests,comrades. I’m honored and humbled to be here with you this morning. I bring greetings and support from your brothers and sisters throughout Northamerica. Welcome to the World Education Forum! Amamos la revolucion Bolivariana!
This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring fighter for justice. Luis has taught me a great deal about the Bolivarian Revolution and about the profound educational reforms underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution, and I’ve come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both the Venezuelan and the international struggle—I look forward to seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and deeply humane. Thank you, Luis, for everything you’ve done.
I also thank my youngest son, Chesa Boudin, who is interpreting my talk this morning and whose book on the Bolivarian revolution has played an important part in countering the barrage of lies spread by the U.S. State Department and the corrupted Northamerican media.
On my last trip to Caracas I spoke of traveling to a literacy class—Mission Robinson— in the hills above the city along a long and winding road. As we made our way higher and higher, the talk turned to politics as it inevitably does here, and someone noted that the wealthy—here and everywhere, here and in the US surely—have certain received opinions, a kind of absolute judgment about poor and working people, and yet they have never traveled this road, nor any road like it. They have never boarded this bus up into these hills, and not just the oligarchy or the wealthy—this lack of first-hand knowledge, of open investigation, of generous regard is also a condition of the everyday liberals, and even many of the radicals and armchair intellectuals whose formulations sit lifeless and stifling in a crypt of mythology about poor people. Everyone should come and travel these roads into the hills, we agreed then—and not just once, but again and again and again – if they will ever learn anything of the real conditions of life here, surely, but more important than that, if they will ever encounter the wisdom and experience and insight that lives here as well.
We arrived at eight o’clock to a literacy circle already underway being conducted in a small, poorly-lit classroom. And here in an odd and dark space, a sun was shining: ten people had pulled their chairs close together—a young woman maybe 19, a grandmother maybe 65, two men in their 40s—each struggling to read. And I thought of a poem called A Poor Woman Learns to Write by Margaret Atwood about a woman working laboriously to print her name in the dirt. She never thought she could do it, the poet notes, not her– this writing business was for others. But she does it, prints her name, her first word so far, and she looks up and smiles— for she did it right.
The woman in the poem—just like the students in Mission Robinson—is living out a universal dialectic that embodies education at its very best: she wrote her name, she changed herself, and she altered the conditions of her life. As she wrote the word, she changed the world, and another world became—suddenly and surprisingly—possible.
I began teaching when I was 20 years old in a small freedom school affiliated with the Civil Rights Movement in the United States. The year was 1965, and I’d been arrested in a demonstration. Jailed for ten days, I met several activists who were finding ways to link teaching and education with deep and fundamental social change. They were following Dewey and DuBois, King and Helen Keller who wrote: “We can’t have education without revolution. We have tried peace education for 1,900 years and it has failed. Let us try revolution and see what it will do now.”
I walked out of jail and into my first teaching position—and from that day until this I’ve thought of myself as a teacher, but I’ve also understood teaching as a project intimately connected with social justice. After all, the fundamental message of the teacher is this: you can change your life—whoever you are, wherever you’ve been, whatever you’ve done, another world is possible. As students and teachers begin to see themselves as linked to one another, as tied to history and capable of collective action, the fundamental message of teaching shifts slightly, and becomes broader, more generous: we must change ourselves as we come together to change the world. Teaching invites transformations, it urges revolutions small and large. La educacion es revolucion! http://billayers.wordpress.com/2006/11/07/world-education-forum/
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| Sep 12 @ 1:14 AM |
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KatiefromStafford
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They want to take over the American oil wells there? Simple. You know all that radioactive waste everyone is going on about not knowing what to do with? Ship it down there, and dump it down every American held well. We may not have the oil, but by golly, neither will they! Preferably something with a 1/2 life of around 10,000 years would be good.
Then get off our butts, and get serious about finding alternate ways of getting around.
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| Sep 12 @ 1:28 PM |
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Say_Yes
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They want to take over the American oil wells there? Simple. You know all that radioactive waste everyone is going on about not knowing what to do with? Ship it down there, and dump it down every American held well. We may not have the oil, but by golly, neither will they! Preferably something with a 1/2 life of around 10,000 years would be good.
Then get off our butts, and get serious about finding alternate ways of getting around.
One (of the many) problems with this idea, is the fact that there are no Amercian oil wells in Venezuela, i.e., no oil wells are currently owned, managed or leased by American companies. Chavez nationalized (stole) the last of them back in May of 2007.
May 1, 2007 · Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez nationalized the last privately run oil fields in the country Tuesday. The government is taking over four oil projects run by some of the world's biggest petroleum companies.
Source - NPR
What he is doing now, is stealing the distribution system that ships the oil from the wells to the ports, including all pipelines, storage tanks and processing facilities. Personally, I don't buy gas from Citgo, which the Venezuelan owned gas company that does business here in the USA. Boycotting Citgo has little if any real effect, beyond the symbolic, as many American companies buy oil from Venezuela.
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| Sep 12 @ 1:33 PM |
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KatiefromStafford
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Ah, okay, my bad. Well, poo, and that was such a good idea too. :/
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| Sep 12 @ 6:17 PM |
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Say_Yes
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We are the nation with a $450,000+ national debt for every man, woman and child; the nation with monopoly 'money' printed by our owners the World Bank.
You are not even close to being correct. The national debt, currently stands at just under $9.7 trillion. According to Claritas, Inc., the current population of the USA is 304,141,549. So, the current per capita share of the national debt is approximately $31,892. While this is still an absurd amount of debt, it is not close to $450,000 per person.
National Debt
the nation paying taxes through the purchase of $3-4 gasoline when there is oil in Alaska that can be produced for $3 a barrel that will sustain us for 2 centuries -- but production of which would collapse our funny money.
Again, not even close to being correct. In 2007, the USA consumed on average 20,698,000 barrels of oil daily, or 7,554,770,000 barrels for the year. As of year end 2007, proven oil reserves in the entire USA amounted to 30.5 billion barrels. So, doing the basic math, given current rates of consumption, we have about a four year supply of oil within the USA, including ANWAR & the rest of Alaska.
Source - BP
In order for us to have a 200 year supply of oil in Alaska, there would have to be in excess of 1.51 trillion barrels of oil there, which FAR exceeds the total known reserves of oil, world wide (and that assumes that we will no increase in demand over that time frame). It's a nice story, but it just has no basis in fact.
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| Sep 12 @ 6:28 PM |
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KatiefromStafford
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By the way, Say_Yes, thank you for the polite way you explained the reasons why my radiation plan (I wasn't serious, to be honest) would not work. I was being more then a little silly, and certainly didn't mean for my 'idea' to be taken seriously, and I am grateful for the fact that you could see the dark humor I intentionally displayed. 
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