| Sep 18 @ 2:19 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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WASHINGTON, (AFP) - White House hopefuls Barack Obama and John McCain are in a virtual tie in five battleground states, but nationally McCain's convention bounce has dissolved, giving Obama a 48 to 43 percent lead, according to polls released Wednesday.
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Nationally, Obama has retaken the lead, according to a CBS News/New York Times poll that last week, in the wake of the Republican National Convention, saw McCain leading by two percentage points
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| Sep 18 @ 2:20 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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But ya know what... It dont mean a thing till the votes are counted.
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| Sep 18 @ 4:20 AM |
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Gman762
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That an empty suit might have some perceived lead is hardly good news unless you're a Kool-Aid Drinker.
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| Sep 18 @ 8:28 PM |
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Loreli
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I watch this every day, Burns....
it swings a few points to either side and back again.
New York times article today said they fear McCain/Palin won't be a real change from what we have now.
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| Sep 18 @ 8:32 PM |
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vinnytmd
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If Obama is not up by 5-6 points before the election he is a dead loser. Polls have underestimated Republican votes in the Presidential election by 6-7 points for years.
Combine that with the "racial" factor and I would say that Palin/McCain are clearly in the driver seat.
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| Sep 18 @ 8:38 PM |
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Say_Yes
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If Obama is not up by 5-6 points before the election he is a dead loser. Polls have underestimated Republican votes in the Presidential election by 6-7 points for years.
Normally, I would agree with you on this, but Obama consistently did better in the primaries, than polling data would suggest. Many of his supporters are younger Americans, who only have cell phones. Polling calls are not made to cell phones, thus his numbers have tended to be somewhat under, rather than over stated.
Then again, the popular vote means nothing. What matters is the electoral college. Obama has to carry states, that Kerry lost. In the democratic primaries, Hillary tended to run much stronger in those states, than did Obama. As such, I think that while he may win the popular vote, he may well lose the election. Then again, Hillary won the popular vote in the Democratic primaries. Isn't that a bit ironic?
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| Sep 18 @ 8:39 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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If Obama is not up by 5-6 points before the election he is a dead loser. Polls have underestimated Republican votes in the Presidential election by 6-7 points for years.
so conversely.. if McCain/Palin are not up by 5-6 points... are they losers too??? 
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| Sep 18 @ 8:47 PM |
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vinnytmd
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so conversely.. if McCain/Palin are not up by 5-6 points... are they losers too??? ]
GH - are you serious? DO you think that they are Democrats too? You OK there?
say yes, the same was said for Kerry. Fact is that many of the youngsters do not show up.
Again, the race factor is worth 3-4 points in a nationwide election. Remember, it is not a factor in primaries.
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| Sep 18 @ 9:17 PM |
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Loreli
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Based on what I saw sitting on committee, and during caucus, I have to repectfully disagree.
The younger voters are pretty pumped HERE about the election...
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| Sep 18 @ 9:22 PM |
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vinnytmd
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Pumped up? 
They were pumped up for Kerry too. There was a war -remember??
Remember the rock concerts?
Young voters notoriously stay home. Time will tell.
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| Sep 18 @ 9:26 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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I know, vinny iam gnman, the truth hurts!
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| Sep 18 @ 9:57 PM |
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Makya
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That an empty suit might have some perceived lead is hardly good news unless you're a Kool-Aid Drinker
What is that supposed to mean?
it swings a few points to either side and back again.
Which is why I also believe..
It dont mean a thing till the votes are counted
Then again, the popular vote means nothing. What matters is the electoral college.
While Obama is doing far better with the electorial vote than I thought he would, I am not confident he will win them out. If he does, it will be by the skin of his teeth.
I believe he will have the popular vote hands down. Lets just hope, with Bush supporting Mc Cain, that we don't have repeat of eight years ago and the "problem" with the polls.
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| Sep 18 @ 10:03 PM |
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Angel54214
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It already started...
Ohio Sues Over Missing Electronic Votes August 09 06
"The Columbus Post Dispatch reports that the State of Ohio is suing Premier Election Systems (previously known as Diebold) over malfunctions in electronic voting machines. Election workers found that votes were 'dropped' in at least 11 counties when memory cards were uploaded to computer servers. The same voting machines are used nationwide. The company blames a conflict between their software and antivirus software for the problem and says that an advisory was issued on the subject. The Ohio lawsuit contends that the company made false representations and failed to live up to contractual obligations and seeks punitive damages."Read more of this story at Slashdot.
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| Sep 19 @ 10:08 AM |
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Loreli
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Obama gains a bigger lead
cbs
I agree with Makya-this one is close, and it will likely change again and again. The Early Show crew stated that Palin got the shock value, is fresh and new, but now things will level off to watching both sides.
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| Sep 19 @ 4:09 PM |
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kattsmeow
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This is what I don't like, these polls. When all the votes are cast, then we will know.
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| Sep 19 @ 4:37 PM |
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Say_Yes
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I believe he will have the popular vote hands down. Lets just hope, with Bush supporting Mc Cain, that we don't have repeat of eight years ago and the "problem" with the polls.
Yes, hopefully this time, the ballots in florida won't be designed by a bunch of Democrats that could not be understood by their voters.
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