| Sep 26 @ 11:19 PM |
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luneib

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I also saw this in another video, it is the Democrats who are responsible for this economic mess we are in. I am not a Democratic, nor am I a Republican but after watching this, I know who I am voting for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o
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| Sep 26 @ 11:23 PM |
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KatiefromStafford

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there are already several threads with that video .. does the whole P&CE have to have the same thread in it now? for McCain?
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| Sep 26 @ 11:25 PM |
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Loreli


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| Sep 26 @ 11:27 PM |
Once you watch this, you will not vote Obama. |
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KatiefromStafford

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Same exact video, different title but exactly the same video
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| Sep 26 @ 11:27 PM |
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Heaveninawildflower

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If you watch one video and base your vote on that, you deserve what you get. Read a bit, you'll find out that there's plenty of guilt to be passed around - the deregulation that took place that caused the financial meltdown was initiated by Phil Gramm, voted for by John McCain and all the other republicans save one.
Amazing, really amazing.
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| Sep 26 @ 11:43 PM |
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arieann

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I found this video very informative. I am glad you put it up. But you may get arrested. Obama is trying to shut up anyone who does not speak in his favor. I see how democrats have stupid ideas about wanting to give, give and give to special interest groups. The more you give, the more that person takes. Then the demos want to give more until there is nothing left to give.Then they blame it on republicans, saying republicans dont want to give enough.
the deregulation that took place that caused the financial meltdown was initiated by Phil Gramm, voted for by John McCain and all the other republicans save one. An example of turning it on republicans.
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| Sep 26 @ 11:57 PM |
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lacyvsq

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The dems and the reps are on the same side... One pitches a softball to the other who hits it out of the ballpark...
They are all communitarian/collectivists! Vote them all out!
...Oh wait... Who is counting the votes? Who is programming the machines?
Edited to correct drunken misspelling...
[Edited on 9/27/2008 1:09 AM]
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| Sep 26 @ 11:58 PM |
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Heaveninawildflower

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Interesting - I'm turning it on Republicans!!
Why do you think it was named the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act? To try to 'turn it on republicans?'
Exactly one republican voted against it, and it wasn't John McCain. Please, if you don't believe me, look it up. This was the act that repealed the regulations established after the 1929 crash to try to avoid exactly what we're experiencing now.
Lacy, you're exactly right. I think they're working together to keep us so polarized that we can't see the facts in front of our faces because if we ever did, we WOULD vote them all out.
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| Sep 27 @ 12:06 AM |
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Loreli


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may get arrested how uninformed...... how, exactly?
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| Sep 27 @ 12:10 AM |
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Nightowl001

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Luneib, I watched part of that video before I got disgusted with the spin. The CRA amendments that Clinton signed he had originally threatened to veto! When he did finally sign the deregulation, all the republicans, including McCain and Gingrich, were all patting him on the back and smiling broadly about how bipartisan it was and how it greatly expanded the opportunity for business to expand their client base and gouge even more poor people. There, frankly, is no way either party can blame this entirely on the other party without hiding their participation in it.
When they were enacted in 1977, the original CRA provisions were signed to force banks to STOP DISCRIMINATING. The regulations "forced" them to adhere to the same rules for loans for EVERYBODY. Including qualifying for them. They couldn't just say "Well, no, you want to build your restaurant in Harlem instead of Central Park West, so we're not going to loan you the money." It was to help stop the decay of and encourage people to be able to revitalize inner city areas that had become run down, but no one could get financing to begin to refurbish them. They would loan a less qualified developer more money to build a new apartment building in a "good area" than they would loan someone to renovate an existing building because it was in a "bad" area. Everybody in 1977 hailed it as a great step to stopping the expanding ghetto areas of inner cities.
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| Sep 27 @ 4:10 AM |
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Gman762

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Nice post luneib
Looks like the Kool-Aid drinkers have very little in the way of argument with verifiable data to support it
WTF else is new, eh?
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| Sep 27 @ 8:04 AM |
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Gallows_Humor

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act
Economist Robert Kuttner (among others) has criticized the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act as contributing to the 2007 subprime mortgage financial crisis.[8] Economists Robert Ekelund and Mark Thornton have made similar criticisms, arguing that while "in a world regulated by a gold standard, 100% reserve banking, and no FDIC deposit insurance" the Financial Services Modernization Act would have made "perfect sense" as a legitimate act of deregulation, under the present fiat monetary system it "amounts to corporate welfare for financial institutions and a moral hazard that will make taxpayers pay dearly". [9]
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| Sep 27 @ 11:18 AM |
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kattsmeow

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Loreli: may get arrested
how uninformed...... how, exactly? Obama campaign cracks down on misleading TV ads September 23rd, 2008The Barack Obama campaign is asking Missouri law enforcement to target anyone who lies or runs a misleading TV ad during the presidential campaign.
http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1
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| Sep 27 @ 1:40 PM |
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Gallows_Humor

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.... I am glad you put it up. But you may get arrested. Obama is trying to shut up anyone who does not speak in his favor. you see.. this is a lie... how many other sheep think it is a fact?
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| Sep 27 @ 3:48 PM |
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Gman762

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Actually, not so far fetched at all "wiki internet investigator". There is a thread here of threats to 1st amendment rights set forth by Obama. A person could in fact land in jail if a politically slanted LE official happens to be the one doing Obama's bidding.
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| Sep 27 @ 3:56 PM |
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Haban3ro

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In Orwell's "1984", any "inconvenient truth " was quickly stuffed into the "memory-hole" (i.e., incinerator). Looks like we have some operatives here who are trying to do just that , even in the face of broadcast videos which anyone can link to.
Truth is a stubborn thing, and will forever keep crawling out from where people try to bury it.
If you have problems with the video, read up on all of the references, and make up your own mind. But silencing people is ABSOLUTELY un-American.
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| Sep 27 @ 4:03 PM |
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vinnytmd

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I wouldn't vote for Stuttering Barry for any reason.
He is a useless dope. An empty suit that will renew the days of Jimmah Carter.
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| Sep 27 @ 4:06 PM |
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Heaveninawildflower

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Haban, as we all know, it can be 100% true (and in fact I don't doubt that it is) while still omitting the fact that the right side of the aisle was as complicit in getting us into this mess as the left. My comment isn't about the video itself, but about the judgment of anyone who only looks at one side of the picture and even more, implies that anyone casting aspersions on their chosen party must be making it up...
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| Sep 27 @ 4:21 PM |
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Gman762

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while still omitting the fact that the right side of the aisle was as complicit in getting us into this mess as the left. You are correct...
They allowed the Left to do it...
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| Sep 27 @ 4:23 PM |
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sealacamp

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Lunib thank you so much for that video link. Nothing like the truth to light the path away from socialist ideals which only bring disaster to all. Socialism is reprehensible no matter where it comes from or who supports it.
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