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Oct 7 @ 7:28 AM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
Gman762


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We've all heard of ACORN's illegal practices of "making up" thousands of phony voter registration cards. Here's a new way that the Obamanazi's have found to get around the law to get votes.

Homeless Driven to Vote for Obama

CLEVELAND - Volunteers supporting Barack Obama picked up hundreds of people at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and drug-rehab centers and drove them to a polling place yesterday on the last day that Ohioans could register and vote on the same day, almost no questions asked.

The huge effort by a pro-Obama group, Vote Today Ohio, takes advantage of a quirk in the state's elections laws that allows people to register and cast ballots at the same time without having to prove residency.

Republicans have argued that the window could lead to widespread voter fraud because officials wouldn't have an opportunity to verify registration information before ballots were cast.

Among the volunteers were Yori Stadlin and Vivian Lehrer of the Upper West Side, who got married last week and decided to spend their honeymoon shepherding voters to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections.

Early today, Stadlin's van picked up William Woods, 59, at the soup kitchen of the Bishop Cosgrove Center.

"I never voted before," Woods said, because of a felony conviction that previously barred him from the polls. "Without this service, I would have had no way to get here."

No proof of residency?? They should have stopped by the local Mex centers and got buses full. Maybe they did already...


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Oct 7 @ 11:22 AM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
Gman762


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Planting Seeds of Disaster
ACORN, Barack Obama, and the Democratic party.


By Stanley Kurtz

‘You’ve got only a couple thousand bucks in the bank. Your job pays you dog-food wages. Your credit history has been bent, stapled, and mutilated. You declared bankruptcy in 1989. Don’t despair: You can still buy a house.” So began an April 1995 article in the Chicago Sun-Times that went on to direct prospective home-buyers fitting this profile to a group of far-left “community organizers” called ACORN, for assistance. In retrospect, of course, encouraging customers like this to buy homes seems little short of madness.

Militant ACORN
At the time, however, that 1995 Chicago newspaper article represented something of a triumph for Barack Obama. That same year, as a director at Chicago’s Woods Fund, Obama was successfully pushing for a major expansion of assistance to ACORN, and sending still more money ACORN’s way from his post as board chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Through both funding and personal-leadership training, Obama supported ACORN. And ACORN, far more than we’ve recognized up to now, had a major role in precipitating the subprime crisis.

I’ve already told the story of Obama’s close ties to ACORN leader Madeline Talbott, who personally led Chicago ACORN’s campaign to intimidate banks into making high-risk loans to low-credit customers. Using provisions of a 1977 law called the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), Chicago ACORN was able to delay and halt the efforts of banks to merge or expand until they had agreed to lower their credit standards — and to fill ACORN’s coffers to finance “counseling” operations like the one touted in that Sun-Times article. This much we’ve known. Yet these local, CRA-based pressure-campaigns fit into a broader, more disturbing, and still under-appreciated national picture. Far more than we’ve recognized, ACORN’s local, CRA-enabled pressure tactics served to entangle the financial system as a whole in the subprime mess. ACORN was no side-show. On the contrary, using CRA and ties to sympathetic congressional Democrats, ACORN succeeded in drawing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into the very policies that led to the current disaster.

In one of the first book-length scholarly studies of ACORN, Organizing Urban America, Rutgers University political scientist Heidi Swarts describes this group, so dear to Barack Obama, as “oppositional outlaws.” Swarts, a strong supporter of ACORN, has no qualms about stating that its members think of themselves as “militants unafraid to confront the powers that be.” “This identity as a uniquely militant organization,” says Swarts, “is reinforced by contentious action.” ACORN protesters will break into private offices, show up at a banker’s home to intimidate his family, or pour protesters into bank lobbies to scare away customers, all in an effort to force a lowering of credit standards for poor and minority customers. According to Swarts, long-term ACORN organizers “tend to see the organization as a solitary vanguard of principled leftists...the only truly radical community organization.”

ACORN’s Inside Strategy
Yet ACORN’s entirely deserved reputation for militance is balanced by its less-well-known “inside strategy.” ACORN has long employed Washington-based lobbyists who understand very well how the legislative game is played. ACORN’s national lobbyists may encourage and benefit from the militant tactics of their base, but in the halls of congress they play the game with smooth sophistication. The untold story of ACORN’s central role in the financial meltdown is about the one-two punch to the banking system administered by this outside/inside strategy.

Critics of the notion that CRA had a major impact on the subprime crisis ask how a law passed in 1977 could have caused a crisis in 2008? The answer has a lot to do with ACORN — and the critical years of 1990-1995. While the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act did call on banks to increase lending in poor and minority neighborhoods, its exact requirements were vague, and therefore open to a good deal of regulatory interpretation. Banks merger or expansion plans were rarely held up under CRA until the late 1980s, when ACORN perfected its technique of filing CRA complaints in tandem with the sort of intimidation tactics perfected by that original “community organizer” (and Obama idol), Saul Alinsky.

At first, ACORN’s anti-bank actions were relatively few in number. However, under a provision of the 1989 savings and loan bailout pushed by liberal Democratic legislators, like Massachusetts Congressman Joseph P. Kennedy, lenders were required to compile public records of mortgage applicants by race, gender, and income. Although the statistics produced by these studies were presented in highly misleading ways, groups like ACORN were able to use them to embarrass banks into lowering credit standards. At the same time, a wave of banking mergers in the early 1990's provided an opening for ACORN to use CRA to force lending changes. Any merger could be blocked under CRA, and once ACORN began systematically filing protests over minority lending, a formerly toothless set of regulations began to bite.

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Oct 7 @ 5:52 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
Gman762


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ACORN Offices Raided Today!!

Nevada state authorities seized records and computers Tuesday from the Las Vegas office of an organization that tries to get low-income people registered to vote, after fielding complaints of voter fraud.

Bob Walsh, spokesman for the Nevada secretary of state's office, told FOXNews.com the raid was prompted by ongoing complaints about "erroneous" registration information being submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.

The group was submitting the information through a voter sign-up drive known as Project Vote.

"Some of them used nonexistent names, some of them used false addresses and some of them were duplicates of previously filed applications," Walsh said, describing the complaints, which largely came from the registrar in Clark County, Nev.

Secretary of State Ross Miller said the fraudulent registrations included forms for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys football team.

"Tony Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada, and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4," Miller said.

Walsh said agents from both the secretary of state's office and Nevada attorney general's office conducted the raid at 9:30 a.m. local time, and "took a bunch of stuff."

ACORN spokesman Charles Jackson confirmed the group's Nevada office was raided. He would not comment further to FOXNews.com.

Neither the group, which hires canvassers to register voters, nor any employees have been charged or arrested for fraud or other crimes, said Miller, a Democrat.

But it's not the first time ACORN's been under investigation for registration irregularities. The raid is the latest of at least nine investigations into possible fraudulent voter registration forms submitted by ACORN -- the probes have involved ACORN workers in Wisconsin, New Mexico, Indiana and other states.

In 2006, ACORN also committed what Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed called the "worse case of election fraud" in the state's history.

In the case, ACORN submitted just over 1,800 new voter registration forms, and all but six of the 1,800 names were fake.

More recently, 27,000 registrations handled by the group from January to July 2008 "went into limbo because they were incomplete, inaccurate, or fraudulent," said James Terry, chief public advocate at the Consumers Rights League.

It's about f-ing time...

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Oct 7 @ 6:01 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
KatiefromStafford


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Just asking please, were any of these in Ohio? 'Cause someone said recently that it was all over in Ohio, and I wondered if this would affect that?
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Oct 7 @ 6:08 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
Gman762


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Read it yourself...you have a brain, right?

Or are you just trolling again?
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Oct 7 @ 6:16 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
BandTMom


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Good gravy, do we have to hand feed it to you.

The huge effort by a pro-Obama group, Vote Today Ohio, takes advantage of a quirk in the state's elections laws that allows people to register and cast ballots at the same time without having to prove residency.

Now this sucks! In Oklahoma, you have to register at least 2 weeks before an election and then your card is mailed to you thus proving residency. And you can't vote without the card.

I would think registration and voting laws should be uniform across the country.

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Oct 7 @ 6:21 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
Laidback742


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Mom ... the problem with that system is that it actually makes some sense.
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Oct 7 @ 6:23 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
BandTMom


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Of course it does.

I used to work in a grocery store and was appalled by what I saw people buying with food stamps.

And there was a time that I received Food Stamps for a short time and I tried to stretch them as far as possible to nutritiously feed my older son.
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Oct 7 @ 6:27 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
StarrBabe


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Here we have to register by Oct 10th. I always have to show my drivers license and I've never received a card to vote. I guess they do it different everywhere, huh?
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Oct 7 @ 6:37 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
BandTMom


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We have to resister by the 10th and we do have to have a voters registration card to vote. In fact, not too long ago in OK, we had to vote in one of the primaries or we weren't allowed to vote in the General.

How can we have a true vote of the people if voting laws are different in each state?

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Oct 7 @ 6:41 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
KatiefromStafford


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Our cutoff to register was yesterday (Monday).

Good point, Mom, but I don't think the states would let the federal government regulate voting regulations, and somehow I can't see 50 states and various territories all agreeing on their own.

[Edited on 10/7/2008 6:43 PM]
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Oct 7 @ 6:42 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
StarrBabe


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I'll have to make sure ours hasn't changed. It has been a few years since I've voted, but I know the last time I voted I just had to show my license.

I had to make sure I was good to go to vote THIS year
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Oct 7 @ 6:45 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
KatiefromStafford


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Unless it changed from 2 years ago here, you have to show both your voter registration card and your license, and the addresses have to match on them.
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Oct 7 @ 6:45 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
Laidback742


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Let's do it the American Idol way .... both parties get a phone number and a text line .... everyone can vote as many times as they want .... and a week later, we'll get a 2 hour special with the winner announced at the end.

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Oct 7 @ 6:45 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
kattsmeow


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Felons??? Voting? Since when???

Your registration must be postmarked no later than: October 20, 2008
California
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Oct 7 @ 6:49 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
Heaveninawildflower


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It's been pretty much the same both here and back in NYC - you had to be registered, therefore you had to be listed on the rolls. The person at the poll checked your ID and then checked you off on the list so you couldn't vote twice. Not exactly rocket science, but simple works. Registering here is a lot easier though - you can do it when you get your driver's license.
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Oct 7 @ 6:53 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
KatiefromStafford


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They use the same process here, Heaven.
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Oct 7 @ 6:54 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
BandTMom


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A Federal election should be regulated by the Federal government. Then it would be fair and equal across the board and we wouldn't have issues like that garbage in Ohio.
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Oct 7 @ 8:42 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
vinnytmd


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This just in -


Nevada state authorities seized records and computers Tuesday from the Las Vegas office of an organization that tries to get low-income people registered to vote, after fielding complaints of voter fraud.

Bob Walsh, spokesman for the Nevada secretary of state's office, told FOXNews.com the raid was prompted by ongoing complaints about "erroneous" registration information being submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.

The group was submitting the information through a voter sign-up drive known as Project Vote.

"Some of them used nonexistent names, some of them used false addresses and some of them were duplicates of previously filed applications," Walsh said, describing the complaints, which largely came from the registrar in Clark County, Nev.

Secretary of State Ross Miller said the fraudulent registrations included forms for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys football team.

"Tony Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada, and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4," Miller said.

Walsh said agents from both the secretary of state's office and Nevada attorney general's office conducted the raid at 9:30 a.m. local time, and "took a bunch of stuff." Miller's office reported seizing eight computer hard drives and about 20 boxes of documents.

Bertha Lewis, interim chief organizer for ACORN, released a statement saying the group has for months been turning over any suspicious registration information to elections officials. She said those officials routinely ignored their tips, and called the raid a "stunt."

"When we have identified suspicious applications, we have separated them out and flagged them for election officials. We have zero tolerance for fraudulent registrations. We immediately dismiss employees we suspect of submitting fraudulent registrations," she said. "Today's raid by the secretary of state's office is a stunt that serves no useful purpose other than discredit our work registering Nevadans and distracting us from the important work ahead of getting every eligible voter to the polls."

Neither the group, which hires canvassers to register voters, nor any employees have been charged or arrested for fraud or other crimes, said Miller, a Democrat.

But it's not the first time ACORN's been under investigation for registration irregularities. The raid is the latest of at least nine investigations into possible fraudulent voter registration forms submitted by ACORN -- the probes have involved ACORN workers in Wisconsin, New Mexico, Indiana and other states.

In response to the Las Vegas raid, Republican Nevada Sen. John Ensign and seven other senators penned a letter to the Federal Housing Finance Agency calling for the suspension of taxpayer dollars to "controversial groups like ACORN." The letter referred to contributions that potentially could come from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008.

In 2006, ACORN also committed what Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed called the "worse case of election fraud" in the state's history.

In the case, ACORN submitted just over 1,800 new voter registration forms, and all but six of the 1,800 names were fake.

More recently, 27,000 registrations handled by the group from January to July 2008 "went into limbo because they were incomplete, inaccurate, or fraudulent," said James Terry, chief public advocate at the Consumers Rights League.
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Oct 7 @ 8:44 PM ACORN & Illegal Voting    
kattsmeow


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Very interesting huh? Looks like Sen Obama is in a little hot water.
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