| Oct 13 @ 8:36 PM |
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Kenn159
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Race riots start because of snow, hurricanes, hot summer days.
No need to kill him to start a race riot
Vinny what are you smoking?
Race riots are usually caused by radial tensions, oppression, or the need to stand up against a perceived injustice.
The end of last week, McCain finally started getting some idea of just how much rage his campaign has been creating against Obama.. but I am afraid that it might be too little, too late.. there is a lot of rhetoric out there now, and a lot of fear and anger from McCain supporters.
He maybe starting to change his tune on the campaign trail, but here in Florida his campaign is still running the"Obama associates with terrorist"ads.
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| Oct 13 @ 8:44 PM |
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BandTMom
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Race riots are usually caused by radial tensions, oppression, or the need to stand up against a perceived injustice.
Or basketball games? 
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| Oct 13 @ 8:45 PM |
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vinnytmd
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Race riots are usually caused by radial tensions, oppression, or the need to stand up against a perceived injustice.
How about a specific example of this in the USA? 
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| Oct 13 @ 8:47 PM |
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BandTMom
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See my post above. 
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| Oct 13 @ 8:53 PM |
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hammertime
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Not killing him may start race riots.
Race riots start because of snow, hurricanes, hot summer days.
No need to kill him to start a race riot.
Well I'm sure the Secret Service would like to keep an eye on you because when Obama becomes President Obama they're going to put nuts like you on watch. Patriot Act is already in effect and your IP address, phone lines,etc may be monitored from now on without you even having a clue.
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| Oct 13 @ 9:00 PM |
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redhairNfreckles
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Bullshit.
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| Oct 13 @ 9:02 PM |
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kattsmeow
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North Toledo descended into chaos for several hours this afternoon after angry crowds who turned out to protest a planned march by a small group of National Socialist Movement calling themselves "America’s Nazi Party" erupted into violence.
A mob of at least 500 people threw bricks and rocks at police and vehicles, looted a bar at Central and Mulberry and started it on fire, and overturned a car at a North Toledo gas station and burned it.
There were reports of minor injuries to police and numerous arrests.
The violence started around noon as police were getting ready to escort about 15 Nazis on a march that was supposed to start at Wilson Park and continue on Mulberry Street and Bronson and Dexter Avenues, ending up back at the park.
Because of the violence - which broke out along Stickney Avenue away from the Nazis gathered in the park - police cancelled the march and told the Nazis to leave, which they did.
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051015/BREAKINGNEWS/51015023
All it took here was the idea of a White supremacist march and they all went crazy!
My son and Grandson lived around a mile from this riot. He siad that these people really didn't intend on marching, they just wanted to get a rise...
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| Oct 13 @ 9:15 PM |
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Kenn159
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I did say "usually", of course you guys want to dig up every obscure example.
How about a specific example of this in the USA?
Most recent example Selma Miss.
Got any examples of riots being caused by snow or hot weather Vinny?  
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| Oct 13 @ 9:18 PM |
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BandTMom
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I don't know.....it seems every time there is even a threat of snow in Oklahoma, rioters descend on WalMart to buy all the food.
[Edited on 10/13/2008 9:29 PM]
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| Oct 13 @ 9:27 PM |
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vinnytmd
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I did say "usually", of course you guys want to dig up every obscure example.
Selma? Ok kenn. Others?
Why don't you got to wiki and look up the modern day riots in Urban Areas. Tell us the cause.
kenn - 1978 Blizzard in Baltimore - Looting in the ghetto! -
A major snowstorm leads, serendipitously, to the creation of the Korean Businessmen's League (KBL), helping create a foothold for the city's fast-growing Korean community in the local economy.
A lot of Korean people started very aggressively moving to the United States in the '70s. Some of the Koreans were professional people, but they had a language barrier, they couldn't get jobs, so they were looking into having their own businesses. In [1979] Baltimore had a big snow, and looting broke out. Many stores got torn up and burned, and a lot of Jewish corner-store owners abandoned their businesses. Damage was estimated at 70 - 100 million dollars. Many Koreans started buying a business or rebuilding a business. . . . Then, in dealing with wholesalers, they needed some protection. They needed someone to represent them. They're the ones that started the KBL. (Interview Jin Wook Kang, owner of the Charles Village restaurant Niwana and former vice president of the KBL)
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| Oct 13 @ 10:14 PM |
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bardnsage
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NO. Absolutely not. Why would there be riots? Mr. Obama made more than $250,000 last year, so he is just another fat cat rich guy. F*&K HIM!
He got his already, and he hardly even gives to chairty. Dirty rich guy doesn't even share. In 2002 and 2003 he made over $250,000 a year and he contributed less than $2000 to charity (his tax returns are the source, google them your self if you dont beleive me.) So, he is the exact example the left is using to justify the tax changes, the evil rich guy who doesn't share. So why should the left care if he has an unfortunate accident? What the difference between him,,,, and say,,,,me.
I actually give money to chairties, non-proffits, and even people who need help. He only promises to help, introduces some half baked legislation that will never pass, and then blames it on people like me because it didn't. But he cares,,,, yeah, about $4000 worth of $500,000 does he care,,,, less than 1%. Who cares if he get's shot,,, he's not helping, he's just talking.
RIOTS,,, well heck,,,, there will be no riots based on Mr. Obama being shot. There will be candle light marches, and there will be demonstrations, but not riots. The only riots will start simply because someone saw some flat screens or 22" rims in a store front without bars. Mr. Obama's unfortunate turn of events will be used as the justification.
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| Oct 13 @ 10:47 PM |
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KatiefromStafford
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The part that troubles me the most is that MD is a microcosm of the United States. We are a very divergent collection of people, and we cannot converse in a civilized manner. Can you imagine the actions and reactions if someone well liked by one group here were to have something done to them, and it was perceived that the members from here that were 'on the other side' from this member had something to do with it.
People riot over sports events, they loot during snow storms. When there are acts of violence against one person, a group riots. I am very concerned about Sarah spreading hatred through her campaigns. McCain is trying to unring the bell. I just don't know if he has realized just how serious it is, but only time will tell.
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| Oct 14 @ 12:35 AM |
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lazareth
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Zoot Suit Riots of 1942
more currently from the Yale New Haven Teachers Institute
.The summer of 1919, called “The Red Summer” by James Weldon Johnson, ushered in the greatest period of interracial violence the nation had ever witnessed. During that summer there were twenty-six race riots in such cities as Chicago, Illinois; Washington, D.C.; Elaine, Arkansas; Charleston, South Carolina; Knoxville and Nashville, Tennessee; Longview, Texas; and Omaha, Nebraska. More than one hundred Blacks were killed in these riots, and thousands were wounded and left homeless.
The seven most serious race riots were those which occurred in Wilmington, N. C. (1898), Atlanta, Ga. (1906), Springfield, Ill. (1908), East St. Louis) Ill. (1917), Chicago, Ill. (1919), Tulsa, Okla. (1921) and Detroit, Mich. (1943).
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| Oct 14 @ 12:37 AM |
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lazareth
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12 feet of snow here last winter...... not aware of any riots
Cedar Rapids flooded this past spring.... no riots
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| Oct 14 @ 2:26 AM |
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nah12
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i think it's funny as helI how everyone including Obama has turned this election into a racist issue ...... that's the excuse for everything and people soooooo afraid the black man might get shot ...... what a freaking joke ......
it would be no more racist if he was shot as it would be McCain, Biden or Palin was shot ... that is nothing but BS that the media, Obama and some people like to play as to why he might not win, why he migth not be your choice ..... that fact that every one wants to label any and everything about a man that is no more Black than he is any other nationality, that he is all about being freaking black and any and everything is racist in some d@mn form or the other ....... ... people can't even see what puppets they are in the whole thing ...now that's what's freaking funny ......
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| Oct 14 @ 4:47 AM |
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GraceUnderFire747
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There will be riots if he wins. [Party time!]
There will be riots if he loses. [They cheated!]
There most certainly be riots if he is killed.
When MLK was shot, at least his followers, the ones who really believed in what he said, could state "this man believed in peace... so we should not riot." [The Washington, D.C. riots of April 4–8, 1968 erupted with the April 4, 1968 assassination of Civil Rights Movement leader Martin Luther King.]
When social injustice is perceived, there are riots. [One of the youths shouted, "This is for Rodney King!" The deadly Los Angeles riots of 1992 were underway.]
I think this one happened because it was hot...[The Chicago Race Riot of 1919 was a major racial conflict that began in Chicago, Illinois on July 27, 1919 and ended on August 3. "Unlike southern cities through the 1960s, Chicago did not segregate most public accommodations. In fact, according to Walter Francis White, pre-1915 Chicago had a reputation for equitable treatment of African Americans in general".]
And then, of course, when the power goes off ... there is looting ...[blackout looting of July 13, 1977, was very costly to. New York http://www.springerlink.com/content/w0rnk51822687824/ ]
FYI: I didn't run across any articles about white rioting. Is that because it doesn't happen, or isn't reported, or we're all rich and don't need to riot?
Honestly, this was just a really quick bit of research... there simply does not seem to be much CHANGE in the past 90 years. Let's see... we had Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Regan, Bush, Clinton, and W... it's essentially evenly split between Repubs and Dems. We have passed enough anti racist, anti hate laws to cause the destruction of a small forest ... yet here we are in a worse situation than we were when I was in elementary school.
Why IS that?
It's time that we stopped trying to legislate caring and concern between people and started to facilitate people actually getting along.
You know the teenagers class in parenting where they have to carry around a hardboiled egg as if it is a child, just so they can see what a pain in the ass kids are?
How about if the school systems assigned every child someone of a different race to be their "buddy" for a couple of months? Enforced cooperation. Enforced learning that everyone is, after all, just another human being. Hell -- we could even do it on a town by town basis! "Mr & Mrs Jones, please meet the Brown family -- you folks have been assigned to each other to promote racial harmony!"
OK, I'm resisting the urge to be inflammatory now ... I have many friends of all colors, origins and sexual persuasions and am about as non-racist as you can get... but it doesn't mean I can't play devils advocate...
A friend made this chilling comment the other day:
* Some people are claiming that you must be "racist" if you don't vote for Obama.
* If he becomes President, and you say something against him, it could also be construed as "racist".
* "Racist" activities are now considered "hate crimes".
* You can be arrested for hate crimes.
* Once you are arrested, you will receive instruction on how to change your way of thinking.
Hmmmm... is this sounding familiar?
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| Oct 14 @ 5:09 AM |
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KatiefromStafford
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I think the question should not be one of 'race' as that is the wrong term to be using. Claiming someone is a terrorist is not racist.. claiming someone 'stated that our brave American soldiers were bombing and killing innocent victims' is not racist.
What Palin incites is not a form of racism, she is instilling a fear of, and hatred for, Senator Obama. I am not sure why she feels this is necessary (except that her ticket is falling in the polls). Sitting and listening to Fox News, there are 4 people on the discussion panel, and all 4 of them are very negative about Obama, and very pro McCain.. nice to know that Fox is so unbiased in their 'reporting'...
I would propose that there will be people (not necessarily African American) who will be very upset if anything should happen to Senator Obama. Try thinking of it another way, what would people do if some minority should hurt John McCain?
Just a thought..
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| Oct 14 @ 5:20 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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Honestly given second thought on the subject. No, I don't think so.
We, well most of us Americans have grown beyond that. The handful of nutters left would accurately support the killing, so there won't be a riot, but if they caught the guy that pulled the trigger, there would be an execution.
How about a specific example of this in the USA? It wasn't snowing in LA in 92.
or anywhere below the Mason Dixie line during the 60s.
You really do live in your own small little world huh?
I have heard tiny peckers equal short memories.
Got you ass handed to ya again post....
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| Oct 14 @ 5:36 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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Katt...the reporter that wrote the article ( and you??) spun it into a race issue...
from the begining of it..
Mayor Jack Ford declared a state of emergency this afternoon following a violent uprising in North Toledo ......
He issued a citywide curfew starting at 8 p.m. tonight, tomorrow, and possibly Monday.
Mr. Ford said those protesting were mainly male gang members in their 20s. He said the protests were not triggered by race relations but by gang members with grievances.
"We went to talk to them. Most of them were gang members in full colors," the mayor said. "Their anger was based on some long-standing things but also that we had allowed the [Nazi] walk to occur in the first place."...
Because of the violence - which broke out along Stickney Avenue away from the Nazis gathered in the park - police cancelled the march ..
"We just had to scramble" to bring in more police officers to back up the already beefed up presence of 150 officers on hand for the Nazi march. ......
so even after the mayor found out why they were angry.. the reporter still focused on the "nazi walk" instead of identifying and reporting on just what these gang bangers were protesting... also, the march was canceled because of the simple fact that the 150 officers were needed elsewhere to contain the riot
my thoughts about the real reason for the "gang bangers" assembling to protest was more in line with "turf wars"
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| Oct 14 @ 5:46 AM |
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vinnytmd
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GH - get off of it The Toledo riots were RACE RIOTS. Anyone that remembers the incident knows this, Did you see the pictures?
Blacks looted and rioted in answer to a White Supremacist March - WTF do you call that gh a fookin hockey game?
These were not turf wars. What turf did the White Supremacists defend?
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