| Oct 29, 2008 @ 8:18 AM |
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DeputyWitch
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We all know that the voter turnout among blacks is traditionally very low. We also know that blacks traditionally vote Democrat, example of which you can see here.
Democrats want more blacks to vote as they count on getting those votes. Democrats even want to campaign to change the laws that prohibit felons from voting. Surely these upstanding citizens convicted of child molestation, rape, murder, robbery, etc should be allowed to help decide for all of us?  Well, Democrats know that percentage-wise blacks are pretty high up in convicted felon numbers.
So this year, minus the felons, the Dems are expecting a MUCH higher voter turnout among blacks. Could it be cuz the black guy is running?
So this is where I get stumped: if white people (Republicans or not) are routinely being accused of being racist for voting McCain (McCain himself being called a racist too), does that mean that all these black people who haven't voted before and are now "surging" to vote Obama, are they all racists?  I mean, most of them haven't voted before at all when they had a choice of only white dudes running.
Second, how many felons are there really, in percent of age-elligible voters broken down by race? And how much does that reduce the number of voters by race? Should they be allowed to vote?
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 8:21 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Was there any point to this thread other than to make backhanded racial slurs?
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 8:27 AM |
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DeputyWitch
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Was there any point to this thread other than to make backhanded racial slurs?
See? Perfect example of constant accusations.
Please point out my "backhanded racial slurs" and explain why you think they are slurs.
I'm asking a legitimate question about something that is affecting the elections this year. It's libs that constantly trip the race card. I have the right to ask this. Free speech and all that, I'm not offending anyone.
So since you just accused me of being a racist, answer the question. Are all these people racists to for voting Obama?
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 9:25 AM |
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sealacamp
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Please point out my "backhanded racial slurs" and explain why you think they are slurs.
They are not slurs your statements are facts. In fact most people that are voting for obamanation are prejudiced. Whether they are supporting someone of like race because they hate the other race or are supporting this guy because they want to show the world how non racist they are both are basing their decision on race and that would make them racist prejudiced small minded individuals. I'll tell you what, base your vote on qualifications only, cover the candidates so no one can see them and then lets see who gets what.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 9:40 AM |
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DeputyWitch
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Well, I guess it was a difficult question after all. The possible answers include admitting that:
1. If whites are racists for voting McCain, then blacks are racists for voting Barry
2. Blacks cannot be racists, but then based on the premise of the thread, neither are whites
Libs are all too trigger happy when it comes to accusing. Ask them a logical question, there's none of them to be found to answer it. God forbid they admit they were wrong to make such ridiculous accusations to begin with.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 9:54 AM |
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eastham
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They are slurs. You contend that the only reason that one of the reasons black voter turnout is low is that they are felons.
Voter participation by African Americans varies considerably from state to state. In Georgia, news reports show that many of the state's African American voters are voting early. According to the census, 29% of the population of Georgia is black and 39% of all of the early voters are black.
Voter registration drives in the black community began earlier in this decade, well before the candidacy of Barack Obama. In 2004, 150,000 African Americans were registered to vote in Georgia for the first time. And they not only registered, they went to the polls. In 2004, 25% of the total voters in the presidential election in Georgia were African American -- in proportion to their numbers in the general population. According to the US Election Project, Georgia's 2004 voter turnout was 56.4% of eligible voters.
For many years, the Republicans have run a state of the art GOTV effort, but not so this year. They don't have the money and the McCain camp's overall strategy has been nothing short of incompetent. In June, senior campaign staffer Rick Davis gave a speech/video presentation in which he stated that Connecticut and California were potential pick-ups for the Republicans! What kind of Kool-Aid have these people been drinking. Even before the Democratic nomination had been determined, in head to head polls in Connecticut, Obama was beating McCain by over 20 points as was Hillary Clinton. And keep in mind, that's with Joe Lieberman still rumored to be in the veep-stakes.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:15 AM |
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DeputyWitch
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They are slurs. You contend that the only reason that one of the reasons black voter turnout is low is that they are felons.
HUH? Where did you read this??? Is it "only reason" or "one of the reasons". Not even you are sure what you're writing.
I never got into REASONS. All I said was that blacks traditionally vote in low numbers. Is this incorrect?
You have to learn to read and/or to stop twisting people's words if you want to be taken seriously.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:19 AM |
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lj450
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So this is where I get stumped: if white people (Republicans or not) are routinely being accused of being racist for voting McCain (McCain himself being called a racist too), does that mean that all these black people who haven't voted before and are now "surging" to vote Obama, are they all racists?
It would appear so. The only reason they are voting is because one of their "people" is running. Never cared enough to vote for another whitey.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:22 AM |
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tatiana329
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That low voter turnout is called "the bradley effect"
and lets hope it holds true with Nobama. The last thing we need
is Nobama.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:26 AM |
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Loreli
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Democrats even want to campaign to change the laws that prohibit felons from voting. This is just not true-it's part of our ballot this year....
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:42 AM |
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eastham
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They are slurs. You contend that the only reason that one of the reasons black voter turnout is low is that they are felons.
I'm sorry, I apologize for the "typo". I was editing the sentence and got a phone call in the middle.
In 1960, Catholics and Irish Americans were jazzed about John Kennedy. Were they all anti-Quaker when they voted for Kennedy over Nixon?
There are lots of white folks who will be voting for Barack Obama. Despite the changing demographics of our country, Obama would never attain the necessary votes to win the White House without the votes of a substantial number of white Americans. And he will get those votes.
People are turning away from McCain in droves because they think his economic policies will be nothing more than four more years of Bush and they don't want that. The economy has out-stripped every other issue in this election and people will be voting with their pocketbooks.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:46 AM |
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DeputyWitch
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Yet again eastham you are going off on tangents known only to you.
Answering the questions in the OP? Doesn't seem possible.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:46 AM |
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tatiana329
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How anyone can compare Kennedy to Obama is mind boggling. Turn off your liberal TV channels and learn to use your head.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:54 AM |
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DeputyWitch
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Loreli, check this out:
The Democratic Party should organize an all-out campaign against felon disenfranchisement laws, which have a devastating effect on the African American turnout in states that still deny voting rights to Black citizens who have been convicted of felonies, some even after they have served their time. The Party could also make a point of training candidates of all races to better understand the legislative and policy concerns of Black voters and ways to more effectively share their message with the Black community. Most importantly, Democrats should solicit the ideas of African American and Latino community grass roots activists and leaders for more effective street-level voter education, registration and GOTV programs to increase turnout.
See for yourself
Doesn't say anything about white felons. Interesting
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:55 AM |
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vinnytmd
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People are turning away from McCain in droves because they think his economic policies will be nothing more than four more years of Bush and they don't want that. The economy has out-stripped every other issue in this election and people will be voting with their pocketbooks.
droves??
Todays polls are near even. Where do you find these tidbits???
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:58 AM |
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DeputyWitch
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Then we also have this, and it's from our beloved liberal rag:
Saul Anuzis, the Republican chairman in Michigan, said he had become accustomed to whispered asides from voters suggesting they would not vote for Mr. Obama because he is black. “We honestly don’t know how big an issue it is,” Mr. Anuzis said. But Representative Artur Davis, an African-American Democrat of Alabama, said race was no longer the automatic barrier to the White House that it once was.
“There is a group of voters who will not vote for people who are opposite their race,” Mr. Davis said. “But I think that number is lower today than it has been at any point in our history.”
What’s interesting to me, and often goes unspoken, is that the “group of voters who will not vote for people who are opposite their race” may better describe black voters than white voters.
Granted, black voters often don’t have the choice of a black candidate to vote for. But consider what happened in this year’s Democratic primaries, when they did. Among black voters, Obama ran up lopsided victories against Hillary Clinton in almost every state. Here are some of the most skewed:
+ In Pennsylvania, Obama won 92 percent of the black vote and 40 percent of the white vote.
+ In Indiana, Obama won 92 percent of the black vote and 39 percent of the white vote.
+ In Illinois, Obama won 94 percent of the black vote and 62 percent of the white vote.
+ In Ohio, Obama won between 87 percent and 91 percent of the black vote* and between 34 percent and 44 percent of the white vote*.
+ In North Carolina, Obama won 91 percent of the black vote and between 33 percent and 40 percent of the white vote*.
*In some exit polls, race is paired with sex but not given as a total. In Ohio, for example, Obama did better among black women than he did among black men, and better among white men than among white women.
So in these states, several of which happen to be heavily contested in the upcoming election, more than 9 of 10 black voters voted for the black candidate, whereas anywhere from 3 to 6 out of 10 white voters voted for the black candidate.
These numbers are even more off-balance than the numbers on black-white TV viewing.
This also reminds me of the discomfort that white sports fans feel when they want to cheer extra loud for the one or two white guys on an N.B.A. team. Is that racist — or just voting your race?
New York Liberal Times
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 11:10 AM |
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vinnytmd
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I guess if I got all of my election news from Keith Blabberman, his Lesbian puppet and Chris (chill down my leg) Matthews I would think that voters are leaving McCain in droves too.
If you were actually paying attention to the news you would know that the polls have been tightening since Barry revealed himself to be a Marxist.
In addition to Joe the Plumber touring with McCain and Palin we now have Tito the Builder, Moishe the Dentist, Pancho the Landscaper, Tony the Roofer and many other real people that are not interested in supporting a bunch of non tax paying lazy ass liberals and whinos.
Expand your horizons!
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 11:11 AM |
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Loreli
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Not certain what you are trying to get across, DW, but thank you!
ON OUR BALLOT we had to vote yes or no to allowing felons, or those deemed medically mentally incompetent by a physician, voting rights.
Missouri already has laws preventing felons from voting for "x" number of years after release. Neither specify color of skin.
What ALL representatives should do is what Americans want them to do. That's a pretty tall order. And no matter who wins, if people with complaints don't get a signed petition and take it up the chain of comman-they shouldn't bitch. At all.
*edited-forgot mentally...
[Edited on 10/29/2008 11:24 AM]
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 11:14 AM |
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tatiana329
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The scariest thing is when someone assinates Obama, we will be left with Joe Biden.... Big mouth jerk.... as president...............
now that scares me more than Obama.
OMG, what hell that would be.
Vote for the country, vote sensibly, vote for John McCain. 
Stop thinking Obama is a magician and can fix things.... he will only make them worse and cripple us as a country.
He is a man of arrogence and EXTRAVEGANCE, he will destroy this country and wowe are the blacks going to be mad he isn't going to give them
any money for ansesctors once being slaves...
[Edited on 10/29/2008 11:20 AM]
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 11:21 AM |
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eastham
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The Virginia Pilot is reporting that phony election flyer has been circulated in the state, ordering Republicans to vote on November 4 and Democrats on November 5. The flyer has been distributed in the Hampton Roads area. Article from VA Pilot.
In predominantly African American neighborhoods in Philadelphia, flyers have been circulated that individuals with outstanding parking tickets will be arrested on Election Day. The Philaphelia Daily News reports that the flyer is very similar to one circulated two years ago in Baltimore. Article from Philly Daily News.
In Colorado, a flyer was sent around that said out-of-state college students could not register to vote if their parents claimed them on their tax return. Similar flyers have been seen in Virginia on the Virginia Tech campus. Article from Time magazine.
Anonymous letters sent in several states have also hinted that voters wearing political t-shirts will be denied entrance to the polling stations. While local laws limit the candidate's poll workers from campaigning within a certain number of feet from the polling station, no one prohibits wearing an Obama t-shirt or McCain button.
The Brennan Center for Justice at the NYU School of Law has a regularly updated webpage on incidents of voter suppression. Brennan Center. One of the more atrocious examples comes from Michigan, where the head of the state GOP is trying to have the names of individuals who homes are in foreclosure purged from voting records.
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