| Oct 29, 2008 @ 8:23 AM |
The Iowa Senator Harkin and Chris Reed Debate is heating after the debate
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crouchingtiger
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Harkin, (Paraphrased) tells Reed after the debate, "Your political future is over!"
Harkin was pissed that Reed said that Harkin by calling for a date certain was telling the enemy the plans and thus was a "Tokyo Rose".
I heard just bits from the debate on the Jan Mickelson Radio show tonight as I have to listen to the pod cast.
But it seems that of all past persons to go toe to toe with Harkin, Reed at least made it interesting.
What Reed should have done had this been on television is show a photo of Harkin shaking the hand of Norjega, spelling.
Harkin sad to say will probably win, but he should lose.
I did learn something about that scum bag. It seems when he was working for a previous senator he went to Vietnam to take photos of an island prison for the purpose of bringing those photos back to be used for congressional hearings.
Guess what happened to those photos?
They never made it to any hearings. Tom (loyalists) Harkin sold the photos to pay off his college debts from a catholic college. I mention this because Harkin mentioned that he went to take those photos. So, this is only fair to mention what he did with those photos.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 9:27 AM |
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eastham
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Where do you get this stuff?
First, Tom Harkin enjoys a sizable lead over Chris Reed, 57% to 41%. Most Iowans polled knew absolutely nothing about Reed, so it seems his campaign is not doing a very good job getting his name out.
With regard to Harkin's bio:
Harkin graduated from Iowa State on a Navy ROTC scholarship. Following his graduation, he served flew for the Navy from 1962-1967. He continued to fly in the Naval Reserves for many years afterwards, retiring with the rank of Commander in 1989. In 1968, as a staffer for Cong. Neal Smith (not Senator), he took photographs of the tiger cage cells on Con Son Island -- the South Vietnamese version of the Hanoi Hilton. The prison was originally built by the French and was similar to the horrible condition on Devil's Island. The delegation was supposed to get a "special tour", diverting them from the tiger cages, but prison officials did not know that several of the Congressmen and their staff had learned about the existence of the cages from a missionary. When he returned to Washington, Harkin was afraid that the pictures would never see the light of day. Cong. Smith wanted to keep the rolls of film in his safe and not use them in any hearings. Harkin and Smith fought about this and ultimately Harkin took the rolls of film and sold them to Life magazine.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 9:47 AM |
The Iowa Senator Harkin and Chris Reed Debate is heating after the debate
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Loreli
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Could you show where you got your info?
Sounds like a bunch of horse hooey to me.
Even if ANY politician shakes hands with a less than desireable individual-have you ever heard of United Nations? Becoming allies with a country?
Heck-in 06 Condi was photographed shaking hands with Nguema, a very brutal dictator.
Harkin gets back to his people, I have worked with him on cases numerous times.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 9:59 AM |
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eastham
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And we have more than enough photos of members of the Bush Administration shaking Saddam Hussein's hand.
Reality check...diplomacy is not something you engage in with your friends only. We, the USA, have placed ourselves at a disadvantage by cutting off the lines of communication with countries. Talking to people and having an open embassy does not mean you are giving away the store. Indeed, failing to have diplomatic relations, however frosty, leaves us vulnerable -- we don't have people in place to identify and talk with the political opposition, we don't know who's who in the next generation of leadership, and we limit our ability to meet specific diplomatic goals because we are in need of going through 2nd parties.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:28 AM |
The Iowa Senator Harkin and Chris Reed Debate is heating after the debate
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crouchingtiger
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Harkin gets back to his people, I have worked with him on cases numerous times.
Loreli, I am taking this very personal, First
I have at times written his office for help. NOT ONCE has he ever helped me and two months ago I e mailed him and as this is an emergency and as I am in China, he can't for some stupid reason e mail me.
But, he one time in the late 1970's made a slip of the tongue when he said he served in vietnam. He never did serve there.
And sorry his trip to see Noriega was because he, kerry, kennedy and company love the freaking commies.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:37 AM |
The Iowa Senator Harkin and Chris Reed Debate is heating after the debate |
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eastham
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he can't for some stupid reason e mail me.
Perhaps there are limits on the Senate's email account.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:40 AM |
The Iowa Senator Harkin and Chris Reed Debate is heating after the debate
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Loreli
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Loreli, I am taking this very personal, First
That's hilarious. YOU started a thread with no proof. I merely asked for some....and "I" am not angry.
Neither should you be.
I HAVE worked with Harkin-want me to call him for you? Email me if you do.
Or Talk to Tom Larkin, his aide in the Cedar Rapids office.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 12:06 PM |
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swingpup
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DesMoines, Register
Election profiles: Harkin stresses seniority; Reed notes desire for change
By THOMAS BEAUMONT • {email address removed} • October 17, 2008
For a U.S. senator running for his fifth term, 2008 is a year of firsts for Tom Harkin.
It is the first time the Iowa Democrat has not been the target of a high-profile GOP opponent with the full financial backing of the Republican National Committee's Senate campaign arm.
It is also the first time since Harkin first ran for Congress 36 years ago that he is not facing a Republican member of Congress.
Harkin's opponent is Republican Christopher Reed, a Marion businessman popular among the Iowa GOP's social conservative base but with very little money or name recognition around the state.
Harkin has said he is taking the challenge seriously, although he spent an hourlong interview with The Des Moines Register without mentioning Reed's name.
Instead, Harkin stressed his seniority in the wake of this year's devastating floods and his chairmanship of the Senate agriculture committee.
"I'm running because of two things. I want to use the seniority the people of Iowa have entrusted and given to me to help build a stronger Iowa," Harkin said.
Harkin, a longtime advocate for expanding the government's role in providing health insurance, is also positioned for a key spot on the committee that handles that issue.
Reed acknowledged he faces a huge challenge in trying to unseat Harkin, but noted the sentiment for change that voters expressed during the Iowa presidential caucuses.
"My challenge is being able to get my message out there," Reed said. "My message is not just change, but I offer reform in Washington."
In many ways, Harkin and Reed are opposites.
Voters will get one chance to size them up alongside each other when they participate in "Senate '08: A Des Moines Register Conversation," scheduled to air on Iowa Public Television from 7 to 8 p.m. on Oct. 23.
Harkin, 68, has been in Congress since 1974. He lost his first race for the U.S. House in 1972 - the year after Reed was born.
He portrays himself as a Midwestern progressive in the mold of Hubert Humphrey.
As an example, Harkin, who objected to the Wall Street bailout measure proposed by the White House, voted for a revised package after changes were added such as treating mental and physical illness the same in federal health care law.
On the other hand, Reed, 36, is seeking his first elected office.
He is a self-proclaimed social conservative and free-market economic conservative.
Reed said Congress had no business intervening in the financial crisis and likened the bailout to condoning irresponsibility. "I don't agree with rewarding bad behavior. That tends to get us only more bad behavior," he said.
The two candidates are also split on perhaps the defining piece of legislation of Harkin's fourth term, the 2008 farm bill.
Harkin negotiated the $300 billion bill that passed the Democrat-controlled Congress in May.
President Bush vetoed the bill, which his aides called "bloated." The president characterized it as laden with pork-barrel projects unrelated to agriculture, energy or the nation's school nutrition programs. However, the House and Senate overrode the veto.
Harkin said the farm bill includes more incentives for environmental protection, water conservation, and erosion control.
"I have tried to use my position on the ag committee to, No. 1, build a strong safety net under our prices, under our agricultural commodities; secondly, to move agriculture in a new direction," Harkin said. "I think it's now time to start paying farmers for how they grow it."
Reed said he would have opposed the farm bill, which he criticized as comprised mostly of things unrelated to farm policy.
"If I was to offer a farm bill, it would say this is what we need to keep our small farmers competitive in a global market," Reed said. "And I would say you need to support this bill because it's good for America, not because of what you're going to get out of it."
Big political factors also separate Harkin and Reed.
Harkin has raised money for his re-election campaign as if he were a top target, bringing in more than $8.8 million his 2008 bid, according to campaign finance reports filed Wednesday.
Reed had raised less than $12,000 through the first six months of the year. His fundraising has been so dire that Iowa delegates passed the hat during a breakfast at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul to help the campaign pay its bills. Reed has also blasted the Iowa Republican Party for not doing more to help his campaign raise money.
Harkin campaign aides said their overwhelming cash advantage has given the Democrat enough money to conduct his own race and assist U.S. Senate candidates in other states, as well as state legislative candidates in Iowa.
Reed narrowly won a three-way primary in June to face Harkin. However, turnout was low, an indicator of the troubles the state GOP is facing this year.
A symptom is the growing advantage Democrats have built in registering voters. Registered Democrats outnumbered Republicans by nearly 100,000 at the end of September, the party's largest edge in about 20 years.
Des Moines Republican Steve Roberts, a former longtime Republican National Committee member, said the one-sided race is a sign of turmoil within the Iowa GOP and an enthusiasm gap that favors the Democrats.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 1:03 PM |
The Iowa Senator Harkin and Chris Reed Debate is heating after the debate
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eastham
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When I looked at the Iowa polls on Rasmussen, which trends Republican, I was stunned at the high number of people who had a negative opinion of Reed. They were a close second to those who had no idea who the man is at all.
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| Oct 29, 2008 @ 10:44 PM |
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swingpup
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Hell, Reed is upset here in Iow as the Republican Party of Iowa basically is not helping him at all.
Reed has also blasted the Iowa Republican Party for not doing more to help his campaign raise money. "Per the Des Moines Register."
Harkin has truly done a great job for the farmers he is an Icon here in Iowa. The general consensus has it that Iowa will be Blue next Tuesday.
 
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| Oct 30, 2008 @ 12:56 AM |
The Iowa Senator Harkin and Chris Reed Debate is heating after the debate
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crouchingtiger
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Harkin has truly done a great job for the farmers he is an Icon here in Iowa. The general consensus has it that Iowa will be Blue next Tuesday.
Pup, Harkin is a jack ass. He's a puppet of the Kennedy's and sounds as stupid as they do most of the time. He has no roots in Iowa, not a bit. He doesn't even rent his own personal apartment or house or own shit in iowa.
And as to shaking hands with commies such as noriega, Harkin and kerry were not there trying to improve any relationship but the relationship between the socialist faction of the dem party and the commies throughout the world.
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