| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:20 AM |
Report: '08 turnout same as or only slightly higher than '04 = Hmmmmmmmmmm
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vinnytmd
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Only 1.5% more people voted for Barry than did Bush in 2004. Does this give Bush Messiah status too? 
WASHINGTON (CNN) – A new report from American University’s Center for the Study of the American Electorate concludes that voter turnout in Tuesday’s election was the same in percentage terms as it was four years ago — or at most has risen by less than 1 percent.
Click here to read the entire report.
The report released Thursday estimates that between 126.5 and 128.5 million Americans cast ballots in the presidential election earlier this week. Those figures represent 60.7 percent or, at most, 61.7 percent of those eligible to vote in the country.
“A downturn in the number and percentage of Republican voters going to the polls seemed to be the primary explanation for the lower than predicted turnout,” the report said. Compared to 2004, Republican turnout declined by 1.3 percentage points to 28.7 percent, while Democratic turnout increased by 2.6 points from 28.7 percent in 2004 to 31.3 percent in 2008.
“Many people were fooled (including this student of politics although less so than many others) by this year’s increase in registration (more than 10 million added to the rolls), citizens’ willingness to stand for hours even in inclement weather to vote early, the likely rise in youth and African American voting, and the extensive grassroots organizing network of the Obama campaign into believing that turnout would be substantially higher than in 2004,” Curtis Gans, the center’s director, said in the report. “But we failed to realize that the registration increase was driven by Democratic and independent registration and that the long lines at the polls were mostly populated by Democrats.”
Some experts also note that national turnout trends may mask higher turnout in swing states with more intensive attempts by both campaigns to get their supporters to the polls. Several large states, including California and New York, had no statewide races and virtually no advertising or get-out-the-vote efforts by either presidential campaign.
According to the report, several Southern states — North Carolina, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Virginia, and Mississippi — and the District of Columbia saw the greatest increases in voter turnout.
Overall turnout was highest in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Missouri, Michigan, South Dakota and North Carolina, according to the report.
In 2004, 122 million Americans voted in the general election.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:22 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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*sniff sniff*
Ewwwwww... Who left out the sour grapes?
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:27 AM |
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vinnytmd
Posts: 6,004
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Sour grapes?
Just straightening out all of the slobbering Mythology about Barry inspiring Tens of Millions of blablabal and how the Black voters blablabla and how historic blabla bla.
Barry won a typical election after a two term incumbent.
BLABLABLA
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:36 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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So that's two Republicans that Obama would have kicked their asses in the election huh? McBush and Bush. More proof the man it the best man for the job.
Thanks for sharing.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:36 AM |
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vinnytmd
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:37 AM |
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SweetNapaGuy
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Yup. Sour grapes. They do smell bad. They tend to cause verbal diarrhea, too...
Strange, isn't it? Even now, you're trying to prove that Obama didn't win.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:38 AM |
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kjac
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“A downturn in the number and percentage of Republican voters going to the polls seemed to be the primary explanation for the lower than predicted turnout,” the report said.
Sounds like someone wasn't happy with their party's choice.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:40 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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Or finally got their head out of their asses and seen the dupes they were played for and switched to the winning side.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:46 AM |
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vinnytmd
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sweet, why do you continually put your puke words in my mouth. I never said that Barry did not win.
I am just presenting the facts. Something you all do not like very much.
Barry is not much more of a political hack than Bush was. Just 1.5% more.
So much for the bla bla bla historical bla bla bla fookin election.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:51 AM |
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kjac
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I don't think anyone's suggesting Obama didn't win sweet. Not only do we all know he won, most of us knew it before the election. You can't beat a liberal with a liberal wannabe. No matter how many times he says the word Maverick.
Oddly, we had record turnout in this area, which went solidly to McCain. 
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:54 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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If you think is voter turn out, is the only thing that makes this election historical you're truly simple minded. And once again out of touch. No wonder you can't stray from the Pol threads.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 12:56 AM |
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vinnytmd
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If you think is voter turn out, is the only thing that makes this election historical you're truly simple minded. And once again out of touch. No wonder you can't stray from the Pol threads.
Coming from the KING I consider that insanity!
Thanks.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 1:06 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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And you make a wonderful jester. What else ya got?
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:41 AM |
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SunBabe
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Just straightening out all of the slobbering Mythology about Barry inspiring Tens of Millions of blablabal and how the Black voters blablabla and how historic blabla bla.
Actually I find it interesting that so much credit is given to "Black Voters" for electing Obama when the US Census Bureau says this country is 79.96 Caucasian and only 12.85% Black and 1.61% more reporting 2 or more races.(Hispanics aren't considered a "race", btw -- they fall into the other "race/ethnic" catagories, but it's estimated that Hispanics comprise 15% of our population -- whichever race or combination they fall into)
Of that 12.85% of the population, I highly doubt every single one of them is of voting age. Of the 303,824,640 US population, figure 60% (fair estimate) is over the age of 18: 182,294,784 potential voters...12.85% would be black: 23,424,879. (And there's no guarantee that they ALL voted for Obama.  ...but certainly more than 23 million people, whatever their color, were inspired to vote for him -- obviously)
The report released Thursday estimates that between 126.5 and 128.5 million Americans cast ballots in the presidential election earlier this week.
If there were 127.5 million voters (avg.), 104,075,121 were non-black (using the 12.85% figure). There was a 7% spread in the popular vote between Obama and McCain. I'd have expected a spread of 12.85% if race was really the issue. 
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 3:04 AM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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As I think has been mentioned before, this election wasn't about Obama and McCain, it was a referendum on the Neocon platform in general. Dubya has pretty much gone by the book and it seems it was apparent to more than half the voting population that McCain would have done pretty much the same thing. Even the comparitively low Republican turnout suggests that while they couldn't bring themselves to vote Dem, they couldn't bring themselves to support what their party's turned into. Conservative? Hah...I'll bet another Barry, Goldwater that is, is spinning in his grave.
I have no idea what, or even how much, Obama can do to turn this mess around, but at least there's a ghost of a chance of some change with him, there wasn't a prayer with McCain.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 3:23 AM |
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burnslikethesun
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I have no idea what, or even how much, Obama can do to turn this mess around, but at least there's a ghost of a chance of some change with him, there wasn't a prayer with McCain. 
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 8:06 AM |
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vinnytmd
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Obama and McCain, it was a referendum on the Neocon platform in general.
I think it was "the economy stupid" in play once again.
The numbers prove that all of the slobbering media and their slobbering BS about Barry being inspirational and bla bla bla was simply not true.
The facts reveal this as the numbers were the same as 2004. The number of blacks that voted were almost the same as 2004.
With all of the bs slobbering by the media about early voting and long lines the facts prove otherwise.
The facts present a much different picture than the liberal media did.
Obama won a typical election after a two term incumbent.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 8:15 AM |
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eastham
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The turn-out for this election is the highest that the country has seen since 1908. That's nothing to scoff at.
Also, given the neo-cons approach to the economy, yes, this was a reputiation of their policies and agenda.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 8:46 AM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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Obama and McCain, it was a referendum on the Neocon platform in general.
I think it was "the economy stupid" in play once again.
Well, yeah. Like borrow and spend, bleeding blood and red ink in Iraq, lies about WMD, lies about our economy 'fundamentals being strong' to keep the market pumped up until the bubble finally burst...and I see we lost an additional 240K jobs in October, making it a nice round million jobs lost in 2008, with another two months to go.
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| Nov 7, 2008 @ 11:08 AM |
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tatiana329
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lets face it... Elvis is the only one who could have had a landslide in votes, but he is dead ....
most people believe he is...
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