| Nov 10, 2008 @ 7:13 PM |
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CHARLIgurl1
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Today on the news, they showed a video of the two men meeting at the White house.
A body language expert said that Obama's body language was that of superiority.
George Bush was also seen as a little jittery by moving his jaw in a jerking fashion when the Obama's arrived. The expert said that this was 'nerves'
Obama was seen to reach out and grab Bush's arm, and later pat him on the back.
The expert said that Obama's movements were classic of someone feeling superior towards the other.
Another comment was made that altho Obama is the President 'elect' he is still not the President, and as he was meeting the present President, his actions were a little disrespectful taking in to concideration that this body contact would not be appropriate by anyone else.
What do YOU think? do you think Obama was just being freindly, or do you think there was more to his body language?
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| Nov 10, 2008 @ 7:26 PM |
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Loreli
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I think it's BS....just a ploy to make Obama look bad by posting it
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| Nov 10, 2008 @ 7:46 PM |
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vinnytmd
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loreli - why are you so sensitive. I think that this shines a good light on Barry.
Read it again.
relax
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| Nov 10, 2008 @ 7:47 PM |
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CHARLIgurl1
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Which do you think is BS Lor,.. the part that he grabbed Bush's arm and patted him on the back.. or the part where the Body language expert said that it was behaviour of superiority?.. Im hoping that I can find the clip on the news today, when I find it I'll post it.
I dont really think one or the other, its true I suppose that no-one else would have done that.. but maybe he was just being freindly.. I dont know.. thats why I wanted other peoples opinions.
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| Nov 10, 2008 @ 7:56 PM |
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vinnytmd
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charl - Barry is an expert at appearing relaxed. He always appears confident as this reports.
I read an excerpt from his book about his first meeting at the White House when he was first elected to the Senate. He did the same thing. I assume that this is a subconscious habit of Barry's
Here is the excerpt from his book -
The president then led Obama off to one side of the room, where Bush said: "I hope you don't mind me giving you a piece of advice."
"Not at all, Mr. President," Obama told the commander-in-chief.
"You've got a bright future," Bush said presciently. "Very bright. But I've been in this town awhile and, let me tell you, it can be tough. When you get a lot of attention like you've been getting, people start gunnin' for ya. And it won't necessarily just be coming from my side, you understand. From yours, too. Everybody'll be waiting for you to slip, know what I mean? So watch yourself."
Bush then noted that he and Obama had something in common.
"We both had to debate Alan Keyes," the president said. "That guy's a piece of work, isn't he?"
Obama laughed and even "put my arm around his shoulder as we talked," he recalled, although he added the gesture "might have made many of my friends, not to mention the Secret Service agents in the room, more than a little uneasy."
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| Nov 10, 2008 @ 8:23 PM |
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Laidback742
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I saw the same thing .... personally I didn't think Obama was disrespectful, much of their actions are already common traits to both of them before they even met today ....
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| Nov 10, 2008 @ 8:30 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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I would like to know where the analysis of the 2 men came from...Fox "we hate Obama channel" or another one of the several?
Without the sound on I saw the 2 together and it looked natural for both...Obama as himself and Bush hiding something! 
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| Nov 11, 2008 @ 8:58 AM |
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eyesofastranger
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i don't buy what these so called experts observe but i have to admit if i met bush i would feel superior too.
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| Nov 11, 2008 @ 9:07 AM |
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KatiefromStafford
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I saw two men (and women) meeting as equals, and greeting each other. If you are not from the area where Obama grew up, you would not be familliar with that type of greeting.
There are some parts of the world (and thus the United States) where touching someone else except a brief handshake is frowned on. Some countries greet by air kissing each other's cheeks. What is common and normal for one person could be seen as offensive by another. If you want to read some form of superiority into that, then I guess that is your right to your opinion. A lot of what we do, are things we have been brought up with.. and somehow condemning a person for responding in a friendly manner to a friendly greeting to me just seems a bit petty. Maybe that person (who made the original statements, not the OP here!) didn't get touched or hugged as a kid, and is uncomfortable with any form of physical contact?
edited to add:
Just watched the clip again, and both Mrs. and President Bush, did the exact same thing about taking someone's arm in their hand.. why did the guy make no comments about that? Maybe because it would have cast Bush in the same 'negative' light as Obama? Interesting.. 
just a thought.. 
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| Nov 11, 2008 @ 9:41 AM |
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theblessedone
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No doubt, body language can be very telling...although it is not an exact science, and is at least somewhat subjective.
I'm certainly not an expert, but I've seen the clips, and to my eyes it appears that Obama was simply demonstrating his usual confident, easy manner. These men are not strangers, and appeared to greet each other with an overall air of friendliness.
President-elect Obama has clearly stated that there is only one president at a time, and he is not (yet) the holder of that position. I believe he reiterated that recently, in comments regarding the upcoming summit on the global economic crisis, slated to take place this coming weekend (which he will not be attending).
Confidence is an odd creature sometimes, and often misinterpreted (particularly by those who do not possess great confidence). True confidence is not borne of superiority, or feelings of the same. However, I'm in no position to say whether Obama's confidence is true, or simply perceived.
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| Nov 11, 2008 @ 9:51 AM |
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willsmalto
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after having watched and observed Obama over these past two years of campaigning, he tends to touch the other person's arm when giving them a handshake, sometimes accompanied by a hug if they're "friends". maybe it's a chicago thing lol.
if and when you don't like someone, you're not gonna be pleased with whatever they do. so I'm surprised at all getting this
by the way, does Bush really deserve any respect from anyone?
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| Nov 11, 2008 @ 9:55 AM |
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Loreli
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Because of this part
The expert said that Obama's movements were classic of someone feeling superior towards the other.
Another comment was made that altho Obama is the President 'elect' he is still not the President, and as he was meeting the present President, his actions were a little disrespectful
I'm perfectly relaxed, Vinny...thank you though 
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| Nov 11, 2008 @ 10:31 AM |
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daisy315
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Good post Blessedone and Wills.. grabbing someone by the arm while shaking someones hand is also a southern thing.. so is the pat on the back..
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