| Nov 20, 2008 @ 1:30 PM |
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onoudn
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McALLEN, Texas — Vice President Dick Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales have been indicted on state charges involving federal prisons in a South Texas county that has been a source of bizarre legal and political battles under the outgoing prosecutor.
The indictment returned Monday has not yet been signed by the presiding judge, and no action can be taken until that happens.
The seven indictments made public in Willacy County on Tuesday included one naming state Sen. Eddie Lucio Jr. and some targeting public officials connected to District Attorney Juan Angel Guerra's own legal battles.
Regarding the indictments targeting the public officials, Guerra said, "the grand jury is the one that made those decisions, not me."
reported here as well as the LA times, and other sources.....
So where's the liberal news bias when you need it. This story was buried on page A13 in the LA Times, it was so small I almost ignored it thinking it was a want ad.
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| Nov 20, 2008 @ 1:33 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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http://www.matchdoctor.com/thread_88_32485_1/Cheney_Gonzales_Indicted_By_South_Texas_Grand_Jury.html
that said........
The indictment returned Monday has not yet been signed by the presiding judge, and no action can be taken until that happens.
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| Nov 20, 2008 @ 1:39 PM |
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onoudn
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So ?
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| Nov 20, 2008 @ 1:56 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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until it is signed by one man....it is a whole lot of something that means nothing.....
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| Nov 20, 2008 @ 2:54 PM |
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onoudn
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it say not signed "yet".....why wouldn't the presiding judge sign the indictment ?
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| Nov 20, 2008 @ 2:54 PM |
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onoudn
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it say not signed "yet".....why wouldn't the presiding judge sign the indictment ?
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| Nov 20, 2008 @ 2:58 PM |
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eastham
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While neither Gonzales nor Cheney must appear, an arraignment has been set for Friday (tomorrow) according to the Associated Press. This just gets curiouser and curiouser.
Link to AP article.
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| Nov 20, 2008 @ 2:58 PM |
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ISSUESWOPTIONS
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it say not signed "yet".....why wouldn't the presiding judge sign the indictment ?
ummmm..accidental death?  
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| Nov 20, 2008 @ 3:01 PM |
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eastham
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I think it has now been signed as the judge has scheduled the arraignment for tomorrow.
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| Nov 20, 2008 @ 3:19 PM |
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onoudn
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.....sneaks in and swispers softly....."did I mentioned that was yesterdays la times"......
thanks for the update east 
wonder if anyone knows how to access copies of filed court document, or if they are even available at this early stage....findlaw maybe ?
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| Nov 20, 2008 @ 6:13 PM |
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Haban3ro
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BTW, this is the same grand jury which also indicted the District Attorney in their county; the person to whom the Cheney-Gonzales indictment will be delivered for action.
They are now moving on to their next investigation, which seeks to indict the alcoholic beverage Corona for impersonating a beer...
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| Nov 21, 2008 @ 11:24 PM |
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Angel54214
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Seems Guerra had a temper tantrum today in court...
Prosecutor who had Cheney indicted yells at judge
Fri Nov 21,
RAYMONDVILLE, Texas – A county prosecutor who brought indictments this week against Vice President Dick Cheney and others pounded his fist and shouted at the judge Friday during a routine hearing. Willacy County District Attorney Juan Angel Guerra asked Presiding Judge Manuel Banales to recuse himself from the case, which alleges abuse at federally run prisons.
Attorneys for the vice president and other defendants leapt to their feet in objection as Guerra pounded the table and accused Banales of giving the defendants special treatment.
"Now all of a sudden there is urgency," Guerra shouted. "Eighteen months you kept me indicted through the election."
Guerra lost his bid for re-election in the March primary and will leave office in January. He was indicted last year on charges he extorted money from a bail bond company and used his office for personal business, but the charges were dismissed last month.
Guerra said the judge was wrong to allow motions to quash the indictments to be heard before the defendants were arraigned.
Banales called a recess so he could try to contact the chief justice of the state Supreme Court for suggestions on how to proceed, and ordered Guerra, who had slipped out once during the hearing, to remain in the courthouse.
Guerra first said "I will not obey that order," but then agreed to stay if the judge asked him respectfully.
After the recess, Banales adjourned for the day and announced that he would send all documents pertaining to the recusal motion to the chief justice. He tentatively scheduled the parties to return to court Wednesday.
Curious residents packed the well-worn pews of the Willacy County Courthouse's only courtroom for Friday's hearing. The defendants were not required to appear in person.
Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales were indicted in connection with privately run federal detention centers in Willacy. In particular, it alleges that Cheney's personal investment in the Vanguard Group, which invests in private prison companies, gives him culpability in alleged prisoner abuse.
Guerra also indicted judges and special prosecutors who played a role in the investigation of him.
T. Gerald Treece, a constitutional law specialist and professor at the South Texas College of Law in Houston, this week questioned Guerra's jurisdiction.
"You can't have district attorneys across the country bringing charges against federal officials," Treece said. And even in a federal probe, Cheney and Gonzales have a "qualified privilege" that would protect them so long as they were acting within their jobs, Treece said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081121/ap_on_re_us/cheney_indicted;_ylt=Auo0RxL8okKpi6fK5CiQ6WDLLJ94
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| Nov 21, 2008 @ 11:38 PM |
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lefthandedluckie
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It is now time to bring in Patrick Fitzgerald from Chicago. Let him find out what has went on. It looks to me like there is going to be a cover-up going on in Texas!
Cheney is looking guilty of a "Conflict of Interest"! Lock him up until things can be sorted out! Since there is no "Habeas Corpus", as Bush did away with that for security purposes, Cheney will just have to rot there like those guys at GITMO! Kinda fitting.
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| Nov 21, 2008 @ 11:57 PM |
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Haban3ro
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Guerra also indicted judges and special prosecutors who played a role in the investigation of him.
See, I told you there was crazy sh!t going on down there, but nobody commented on this old conservative's post.
That's not a grand jury in Willacy County, that's Camp Runamuck!
D.A. Guerra needs a sanity hearing. 'nuff said!
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| Nov 22, 2008 @ 12:23 AM |
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blondhunger
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This is just one more example of false and inadequate accusations made by some wacko liberal fanatic who has no standing, How does that grab yuh Democrats? Gitmo? Gitmo substantial arguments, okay? 
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| Nov 22, 2008 @ 12:29 AM |
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Angel54214
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 Haban... 
I did in this previous thread:
http://www.matchdoctor.com/thread_88_32485_1/Cheney_Gonzales_Indicted_By_South_Texas_Grand_Jury.html
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| Nov 22, 2008 @ 1:12 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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This is just one more example of false and inadequate accusations made by some wacko liberal fanatic who has no standing, How does that grab yuh Democrats? Gitmo? Gitmo substantial arguments, okay?
what a fool....  .at least haban knows that it is a circus.... 
Banales called a recess so he could try to contact the chief justice of the state Supreme Court for suggestions on how to proceed, and ordered Guerra, who had slipped out once during the hearing, to remain in the courthouse.......
After the recess, Banales adjourned for the day and announced that he would send all documents pertaining to the recusal motion to the chief justice. He tentatively scheduled the parties to return to court Wednesday.
loosely translated.....Banales has no clue as to what to do here...(. ..)
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| Nov 24, 2008 @ 8:30 PM |
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onoudn
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081119/ap_on_re_us/cheney_indicted RAYMONDVILLE, Texas – A Texas judge has set an arraignment for Vice President Dick Cheney, former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and other officials accused of involvement in prisoner abuse.
Presiding Judge Manuel Banales (buh-NAHL'-ehs) said Wednesday he will allow them to waive arraignment or have attorneys present rather than appear in person Friday.
Banales also said he would issue summonses, not warrants. That allows them to avoid arrest and the need to post bond.
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