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Feb 25, 2009 @ 6:55 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
capobeachguy


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How do you know what car accident victims were under the influence of when they had their accident?

Blood and/or urine tests have been used for this for years. California Vehicle Code prohibits Driving Under the Influence...
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 6:56 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
pomegranate


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At that point, they're ALREADY in the hospital...sigh...
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 6:58 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
jamminjerry


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the rich man does not want marijuana to be legalized because he/she would lose money. most of us would have our own little herb garden! LOL but after awhile most of the monkeys would become so lazy that they would give up their little gardens and buy the stuff! they would be satisfied with punching out those snotty hamburgers at Micky D's LOL we be jammin
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 6:59 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
capobeachguy


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At that point, they're ALREADY in the hospital...sigh...

Which would also be the case with alcohol....or if they were under the influence of nothing whatsoever.
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 7:12 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
KAOS2007


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Capo
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:02 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
daisy315


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Pom.. if you get pain relief from ibuprophen, then you do not have fibro.. ibuprophen works for inflamation.. with fibro, there is no inflamation.. just as with chronic fatigue syndrom and MPD.. fibro ( and these others) are auto immune disorders.. Doctors do not know for sure what causes these disorders.
Not everyone that smokes pot wants to hop in their car and fly down the interstate.. maybe those you partied with did.. but during my recreational days of smoking, we just sat around and chilled out..

edited to add.. when I worked the hospital, anyone that came in from an MVA had blood drawn to test for drugs
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:17 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
lazareth


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As to the health benefits of drinking wine in moderation, yes, Lacy, I've read that before, but I've also read that most healthcare professionals believe the potential health risks far outweigh the potential health benefits,

provide a link with that little tidbit of info please...

particularly in individuals prone to over-indulge, so most don't advocate it for its health benefits.

that goes without saying regarding say..... food, soft drinks, perscription drugs.....

I cannot imagine anyone wanting a bunch of fkd up people walking around in public, conducting business in public, driving while stoned, etc.

Alcohol is legal, yet I don't see folks walking down the sidewalk with a mixed drink in their hand..... where's the comparison..?

Of all of the people I have know ever.... I know of not one who smoked pot 24/7

An alcoholic is going to drink and drive no matter the consequences if he still has a license (or not)

And there will always be those that THINK they can drive just fine after a couple of drinks .... some can as a matter of fact.... BUT it's what they blow in that sweet little breathalizer that determines if they are breaking the law or not
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:23 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
lazareth


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No, it's not illegal to drink and drive...well, let me clarify...not smoke AND drive (meaning smoke while driving) or drink AND drive (meaning drink while driving); I mean driving after you've smoked or drank. (The smoking part presuming it was legal, of course).

it IS illegal to DRINK AND DRIVE.... show me a state that does not have an open container law....... hell, even passesngers cannot have an open container


edited to add..... quaaludes are not even manufactured any more


[Edited on 2/25/2009 8:26 PM]

edited to add.... I just googled....
The vast majority of U.S. states and localities prohibit possessing and/or consuming an open container of alcohol in public (i.e. on the street). Only seven states (Georgia, Louisiana, Virginia, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, and Pennsylvania) have no state law against general public possession and/or consumption of an open container by a person of legal drinking age, although nearly all local jurisdictions in those states do prohibit public open containers.

[Edited on 2/25/2009 8:33 PM]
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:26 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
onoudn


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Alcohol is legal, yet I don't see folks walking down the sidewalk with a mixed drink in their hand..... where's the comparison..?

Laz they walk down the street in Vegas with booze. And I have seen some drunks driving down the street drinking beer. But I agree with you, it's not all that common among those who don't make it a habit of breaking the law.
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:30 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
lefthandedluckie


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I would rather face 50 cars driven by 50 stoned, on pot, individuals than to face one car with a drunk driving it!

And that "Herb", pot, should be legal!

Just my humble opinion, folks!
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:30 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
alivenwell351


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But if weed was legalized, one of the funniest movies ever.... "Reefer Madness"....just wouldn't be the same!!!
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:35 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
lazareth


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Thanks O...... I just googled "open container states" and edited my post.....
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:37 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
pomegranate


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it IS illegal to DRINK AND DRIVE.... show me a state that does not have an open container law....... hell, even passesngers cannot have an open container

Sigh...I just got through clarifying that it's not illegal to drink and THEN drive, so long as your BAC is at or below the legal limit. Then I also stated that I'm not sure if any states allow open containers at all anymore. And I don't know if there are any states that allow passengers to, which is why I ASKED for others' input regarding same.


edited to add..... quaaludes are not even manufactured any more

Shows how old I am..lol

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Capo, what's the point of your statement about the people in the hospital being there because of alcohol rather than pot?

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I didn't say I got pain relief from Ibuprofen all the time, did I? Sometimes I'm in considerable pain and Ibuprofen doesn't work. As far as some pain goes, however, Ibuprofen has worked better for me than anything else OTC..headaches, cramps, etc., especially if taken at the first sign of pain. Doesn't seem to do much good afterward, though. And I was merely speculating ...I had wondered before, whether I might have it, because, symptomatically, it seemed like I might. I think I'll let a physician diagnose my illnesses, if that's okay with you, though.

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Well, I wouldn't rather have 50 stoned people versus one drunk person on the road with me; I'd just as soon not have either. And MANY people who smoke also drink! I also said in a previous post that I didn't do stupid things and smoke out in public where i was likely to get caught, either, so your accusatory statement wasn't called for. Just because you or me or anyone else here smokes "responsibly" doesn't mean everyone else would, does it?

Man, I'm really surprised, though, how many people past 40 still seem to be lost in the "come-down" tent at Woodstock...lol...

[Edited on 2/25/2009 8:45 PM]

Edit:

"when I worked the hospital, anyone that came in from an MVA had blood drawn to test for drugs "

That's common knowledge......what's your point?

[Edited on 2/25/2009 8:46 PM]
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:39 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
capobeachguy


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But if weed was legalized, one of the funniest movies ever.... "Reefer Madness"....just wouldn't be the same!!!

The same goes for Up in Smoke!!!
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:49 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
pomegranate


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Up in Smoke was pretty funny!

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Laz, someone overindulging in food and soft drinks is not going to affect MY health or impinge upon MY rights in any way.

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I'll look for info about the wine: it's been a while since I read that, and it just came to mind when you mentioned it. There are lots of sites from wine makers and so forth that talk about its benefits..naturally.
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:53 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
lazareth


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it's not the wineries that I hear that from......watch that show " The Doctors",,,,, even they say a glass of RED wine a day is good for you... .....excluding pregnant women or any one on medication that alcohol may interact with..... otherwise, grape juice

edited to add...... wonder if the person shoving a Big Mac in his face while driving could cause an accident?

[Edited on 2/25/2009 8:57 PM]
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:55 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
onoudn


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95% Want Marijuana Legalized! CNN Poll.....anti drug groups are outraged...

This is the original story that I saw on CNN....just found it online today...
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:57 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
lefthandedluckie


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The French have proven that drinking red wine will reduce heart attacks. They have the lowest in all industrialized nations today! Of course they also use fresh food from local markets unlike we do!

And they also smoke pot too!
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Feb 25, 2009 @ 8:57 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
alivenwell351


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quaaludes are not even manufactured any more



When did that happen???

Guess I can scratch that one off my One more time before I die list....

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Feb 25, 2009 @ 9:11 PM Could legal marijuana save California’s economy?...Should marijuana be legal ?    
lazareth


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From: {email address removed} (DEMOS)
Subject: Re: Methaqualone-containing products?
Date: 1995/06/29
newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.drugs.hard


>>As far as I'm aware, methaqualone is no longer available in the US in any
>>form. I'm certain that Qualuudes are no longer manufactured by either Lemmon
>>or Rorer.

I used to date a guy back in the early 80s that dealt ludes..... the last few batches he received were no longer white but brown..... not "true" ludes... the methaqualone was no in them anymore but a "substitute drug"....
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