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Mar 6 @ 3:32 PM Death And Suicide At The Army's Fort Carson    
onoudn


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Feb. 9, 2009 | FORT CARSON, Colo. -- Preventable suicides. Avoidable drug overdoses. Murders that never should have happened. Four years after Salon exposed medical neglect at Walter Reed Army Medical Center that ultimately grew into a national scandal, serious problems with the Army's healthcare system persist and the situation, at least at some Army posts, continues to deteriorate.

This story is no longer just about lack of medical care. It's far worse than sighting mold and mouse droppings in the barracks. Late last month the Army released data showing the highest suicide rate among soldiers in three decades. At least 128 soldiers committed suicide in 2008. Another 15 deaths are still under investigation as potential suicides. "Why do the numbers keep going up?" Army Secretary Pete Geren said at a Jan. 29 Pentagon news conference. "We can't tell you." On Feb. 5, the Army announced it suspects 24 soldiers killed themselves last month, more than died in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.


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Mar 6 @ 4:12 PM Death And Suicide At The Army's Fort Carson    
eastham


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This is an incredibly serious problem Mental health services, whether you are in the military or not, have always been treated like the red-headed step child -- underfunded, undertreated, etc.

The Iran and Afghanistan Veterans of America has been very vocal about mental health issues for active military and veterans. In January, they issued a new report that took a real hard look at the problem. Here's a link to the report.
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Mar 6 @ 4:29 PM Death And Suicide At The Army's Fort Carson    
Gallows_Humor


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Alarming numbers betray bitter realities of military service

For the fourth straight year, the number of suicides among active U.S. military personnel has risen at an alarming rate. According to a recent MSNBC.com report, in 2008 alone there were 128 suicides in the Army and 41 more in the Marine Corps.



Unable to cope with PTSD and
depression, a growing number of
soldiers is turning to suicide.

The per capita breakdown according to the military is as follows: 20.2 per 100,000 Army soldiers, 19 per 100,000 Marines, 11.5 per 100,000 Air Force members, and 11.3 per 100,000 Navy personnel. Such numbers are shocking, and point to ever worsening morale and conditions among the U.S. armed forces during the most recent wave of imperialist aggression and the accompanying global economic decline.
http://www.pslweb.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=11397&news_iv_ctrl=1261



U.S. Suicide Rates, 1950–2003
(per 100,000 population

Male, all ages

1950 _I_ 1960_I_ 1970_I_1980_I_1990_I_1995_I_ 2000_I_ 2001_I_ 2002_I_ 2003
21.2 _I_ 20.0 _I_ 19.8_I_19.9 _I_21.5_I_ 20.3_I_ 17.7 _I_ 18.2 _I_ 18.4_I_ 18.0

http://www.suicide.org/suicide-statistics.html#2005

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Mar 6 @ 4:45 PM Death And Suicide At The Army's Fort Carson    
eastham


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This is a terrible problem and one I fear without really active intervention will get worse.
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Mar 6 @ 4:50 PM Death And Suicide At The Army's Fort Carson    
Josuha


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The New Army..

We were housed in wood barracks.

We did the painting, repair and kept the place clean.

What the hell are the NCO's doing?

My NCO's would have went ballistic..
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Mar 6 @ 6:00 PM Death And Suicide At The Army's Fort Carson    
Josuha


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This is a terrible problem and one I fear without really active intervention will get worse.

Screw intervention.

Get the officers and NCO's off their butts and get it done.
That's why supply orders paint brushes and plaster.

Or move the troops to tents until it's fixed.

They're soldiers not boyscouts..
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Mar 6 @ 6:15 PM Death And Suicide At The Army's Fort Carson    
onoudn


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What gets me is that this isn't being reported on the news that much. I happened to notice it stream line by while they were talking about some rap star that beat his girlfriend. I'm not saying domestic violence isn't important. But these guys deserve a lot better than to be the side-show to a story about a rap star.
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Mar 6 @ 9:56 PM Death And Suicide At The Army's Fort Carson    
Gallows_Humor


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please........understand that statistically... the numbers are not that far off from the total male grouping in the USA..


one suicide is one too many.. but this is not the smoking gun that some reporters are trying to make it into...
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Mar 6 @ 11:18 PM Death And Suicide At The Army's Fort Carson    
onoudn


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Which group is higher, males in or out of war ?
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