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May 10, 2009 @ 11:57 AM Swine flu    
Peabianjay


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Capo: The the liberal Los Angeles Times was in error when they posted this story? You have a very convenient memory...and an unrealistic liberal slant to your "views".
No obvious error in the Times, Capo.

There's a huge difference between, "I'd avoid walking in Detroit downtown at night." and "There should be a 10pm universal curfew." Who exactly turned his comments about avoiding unnecessary confinement into a scandal? Evidentally, the Times didn't. Did you actually read the story you linked? Heh.

(I also don't see how "liberal" has anything to do with it.)

DR: It was a HOAX. And exactly as I predicted, it's not yet two weeks later and you can't even find any mention of this flu in the news anymore.
Curious....weren't you complaining that it was blown out of proportion....now you're complaining they're not? Make up your mind, already.
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May 10, 2009 @ 12:21 PM Swine flu    
capobeachguy


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Of course I read the story, Pea.

My favorite was the penultimate paragraph in which White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs tries to clean up Joe Biden's mess:
"I understand what he said. I'm telling you what he meant to say," Gibbs said.

You had said "I was amused by how Biden's words were twisted and exaggerated. " Apparently your amusement was not shared by Gibbs, 0bama, or the rest of the herd.
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May 11, 2009 @ 1:55 AM Swine flu    
kjac


Posts: 8,163
The latest story of the non-existent flu that exists.
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May 11, 2009 @ 7:55 AM Swine flu    
dafengluobote


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China Reports First Case of Swine Flu
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/world/asia/12flu.html?ref=global-home
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May 11, 2009 @ 10:04 AM Swine flu    
eastham


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Very interesting story on the flu from BBC radio. While it now appears that the swine flu is a pandemic, because of the large number of cases, it is not as severe as first believed, because public health officials were reacting to the severity of the hospitalized cases as being representative of the flu as a whole.

When it comes to infectious disease, it is better to err on the side of caution and cautious minds are still worried that that this flu will have an impact during the next flu cycle in the fall.
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 9:42 AM Swine flu    
Loreli


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Flu Experts Declare H1N1 a Pandemic
By KCRG Intern

Story Created: Jun 11, 2009 at 11:14 AM CDT

Story Updated: Jun 11, 2009 at 11:14 AM CDT
The world's leading flu experts gathered Thursday morning for a high stakes, emergency meeting declaring an H1N1 flu pandemic. Being the first in more than forty years.

The virus has swept through 74 countries and here at home, has hit all fifty states.

The World Health Organization says it decided to raise the pandemic alert level from phase 5 to 6, meaning that a global outbreak of H1N1 has begun.

States and Territories* Confirmed and Probable Cases Deaths
States
Alabama

94 cases

0 deaths
Alaska

3cases

0 deaths
Arkansas

9cases

0 deaths
Arizona

547 cases

4 deaths
California

973 cases

0 deaths
Colorado

75 cases

0 deaths
Connecticut

395 cases

1 death
Delaware

142 cases

0 deaths
Florida

247 cases

0 deaths
Georgia

33 cases

0 deaths
Hawaii

115 cases

0 deaths
Idaho

16 cases

0 deaths
Illinois

1357 cases

5
Indiana

173 cases

0 deaths
Iowa

92 cases

0 deaths
Kansas

92

0 deaths
Kentucky

96

0 deaths
Louisiana

134 cases

0 deaths
Maine

17

0 deaths
Maryland

89

0 deaths
Massachusetts

787

0 deaths
Michigan

298 cases

1 death
Minnesota

82

0 deaths
Mississippi

40 cases

0 deaths
Missouri

46 cases

1 death
Montana

15 cases

0 deaths
Nebraska

60 cases

0 deaths
Nevada

128 cases

0 deaths
New Hampshire

64 cases

0 deaths
New Jersey

148 cases

0 deaths
New Mexico

108 cases

0 deaths
New York

858 cases

8 deaths
North Carolina

30 cases

0 deaths
North Dakota

23 cases

0 deaths
Ohio

35 cases

0 deaths
Oklahoma

93 cases

0 deaths
Oregon

167 cases

0 deaths
Pennsylvania

299 cases

0 deaths
Rhode Island

18 cases

0 deaths
South Carolina

60

0 deaths
South Dakota

10 cases

0 deaths
Tennessee

104 cases

0 deaths
Texas

1670 cases

3 deaths
Utah

461 cases

2 deaths
Vermont

9 cases

0 deaths
Virginia

55 cases

1 death
Washington

577 cases

1 death
Washington, D.C.

24 cases

0 deaths
West Virginia

6 cases

0 deaths
Wisconsin

2217 cases

0 deaths
Wyoming

25 cases

0 deaths
Territories
Puerto Rico

1 case

0 deaths
TOTAL*(52)

1
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 10:59 AM Swine flu    
eastham


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The WHO (World Health Organization) has officially called H1N1 a phase-6 pandemic. The flu is now in 74 countries, with 27,000 confirmed cases and 141 confirmed deaths. Raising the flu to a level 6 does not indicate severity, but simply the sheer number of people who have contracted this flu or who are at risk for doing so.

Statement by WHO director-general, Dr. Margaret Chan.
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 2:12 PM Swine flu    
Nightowl001


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So much for the confident predictions by a few that this would be "out of the news within 2 weeks."
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 2:19 PM Swine flu    
lacyvsq


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It's not news. It is propaganda.
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 2:32 PM Swine flu    
eastham


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Well, we just had our 8th death in the City of New York. We also have 25 confirmed cases at Riker's, which given the close quarters there will mean more will certainly come down with the flu, even with quarantine measures.
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 2:49 PM Swine flu    
capobeachguy


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How many folks died in New York last year of flu or flu-related causes? It was posted earlier that approximately 33,000 people perish country-wide each year...it would seem to me that NYC would get its share of those.
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 3:17 PM Swine flu    
eastham


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The CDC groups NY, NJ, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands into Region II for flu data collection. 3,000 of the 36,000 flu deaths were in Region II and 8 of those were pediatric cases. Wouldn't want to live in Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma or Louisiana as Region VI led the nation in flu deaths.

Here's hoping that all new cases turn out to be mild.
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 3:42 PM Swine flu    
Angel54214


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Some of the U.S. recent reported deaths were due to other health issues that existed in them at the time they received the swine flu.

Confirmed Cased by State:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-06-04-swine-flu_N.htm?csp=34
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 3:46 PM Swine flu    
eastham


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As are the case with most of the regular flu deaths. The deaths disproportionately affect the elderly, the chronically ill and the young.
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 3:53 PM Swine flu    
capobeachguy


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Is there any indication that the "swine flu" is any more virulent than other flu strains?
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 3:54 PM Swine flu    
Angel54214


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In the U.S...I don't think so. there were 20,000 deaths in the U.S. last year of the regular flu we get.

As of June 5th, the U.S. has reported a total of 10 deaths of the swine flu.
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 4:00 PM Swine flu    
eastham


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No, capo, but the severity of the flu is not what determines if it is a pandemic, it's the sheer number of people affected. The more you have fall ill, of course, the greater the chance someone who has a weakened constitution will fall ill and die.

That said, at the beginning of the pandemic, some feared that it was going to be more virulent; basing their concerns on the severity of those cases in Mexican hospitals.
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 6:57 PM Swine flu    
capobeachguy


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I certainly understand what determines a pandemic; what I fail to understand is why this is still in the news when it doesn't seem to be much different from any other influenza.

400,000 people die in the United States from smoking-related causes. That, due to the sheer numbers, would seem to warrant far more coverage.
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 7:51 PM Swine flu    
alivenwell351


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It's not news. It is propaganda.



poster child for if ya can't dazzle em with brilliance baffle em with bullshit.....
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Jun 12, 2009 @ 11:54 PM Swine flu    
katydid438


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I certainly understand what determines a pandemic; what I fail to understand is why this is still in the news when it doesn't seem to be much different from any other influenza.
......well for one thing the annual flu season should be over by now. This is a new (novel) virus which has components of swine/avian/human virus. Most annual influenza in composed of only 2 strains, not 3...because of this, it is kind of like a rogue virus. And. if you notice, it is not affecting the usual population,,,the old and the very young....it is the 19 to 50ish age group that is being affected......this follows the same pattern as the Spanish Flu 1918.,,at the risk of droning on,,,,research will tell you that pandemic influenza viruses come in waves...this is the first wave.. the second wave could/will surface in a few months...by then the virus could become more virulent only to save itself and ultimately cause increased numbers of cases and deaths.
Certainly we are not experiencing at the present time the doom and gloom of the dreaded "Avian Pandemic'....but we are tickling the dragons's tail.......we are getting a head's up
BTW...I am an Infection Control Nusre
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