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Loreli
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Dog Drags Newborn From Family Home
By JEFFREY McMURRAY
Dakota, a 4-year-old Native American Indian dog, took her family's newborn out of his crib and carried the baby into the heavily wooded backyard, authorities said. Alexander James Smith was hospitalized in critical condition with two collapsed lungs and a skull fracture. The incident was under investigation. Dakota was turned over to animal control.
His father, Michael Smith, said doctors were optimistic the boy would survive, but a day earlier they braced the family for the worst and had to use resuscitation paddles to get a heartbeat.
"They took us straight to a consulting room with a pastor and gave us pretty much what was the last visitation," Smith said in an interview with The Associated Press from a hospital waiting room.
Smith said he and his wife, Chrissie, had just put Alexander James (or A.J.) in his crib Monday afternoon in their Nicholasville, Ky., home and were preparing for a baby shower. When Chrissie returned to the bedroom minutes later, one of the doors was ajar and both the baby and their Native American Indian dog — a breed that looks similar to a husky — were gone.
Michael Smith initially headed to the backyard, knowing that Dakota, a mixed breed with wolves in its ancestry, had a reputation for stealing household items like cups and wallets and depositing them there. He spent 10 minutes looking among the trees and bushes in the two-acre fenced backyard before finding the dog and child about 200 yards behind the house.
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"When you're running through the backyard and you can't find him, every worst fear comes through your head," Smith said. "We had to try to stay positive, try and find him. My guess is five more minutes and he wouldn't be here."
Jessamine County chief deputy sheriff Allen Peel said no charges had been filed, but the case remains under investigation.
"It's unreal," Peel said.
Smith, who is the owner of a security company where his wife also works, said the dog was treating the baby as a puppy and wasn't being vicious.
But he expects that Dakota, who was taken into custody by animal control, will be destroyed. The 4-year-old was one of three dogs the family had owned since they were puppies and had no history of aggression, even when playing with Smith's two other children from a previous marriage, he said.
"It wasn't a vicious dog attack," Smith said. "She had A.J. for 10 minutes on her own, and if you look at A.J.'s belly, there's about 100 little marks. All the dog had to do was one bite and A.J. wouldn't be here."
My opinion is no, but he should go to a family without small children 
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| Jul 27 @ 9:40 AM |
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capobeachguy
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The child's parents should be spayed and neutered so that they do not produce more offspring whom they can neglect and leave susceptible to danger.
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| Jul 27 @ 11:24 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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It's a tough call....
overlooking the fact that capo is ......... 
it is a dog....vs a baby.....the dog did it once.....and can do it again no matter where he lives...
 ,,, destroying the dog is the safest solution....
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| Jul 27 @ 4:03 PM |
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Angel54214
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I believe the destroying of the dog will be up to the court to decide, for if Animal Control puts the dog up for adoption, they could be liable in a lawsuit if the dog hurts someone else. They are keeping it in quarantine for 10 days and the dog was given a rabies shot.
The newborn baby is still in critical condition.
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| Jul 27 @ 4:25 PM |
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eastham
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The dog wasn't being vicious per se, he was treating the baby like a puppy. That said, any house with a dog or dogs need to be vigiliant when a new baby enters the picture. The dog can become jealous, although I don't think it was the case here. This isn't an animal that has demonstrated any sort of viciousness in the past. I hope they can adopt him out.
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| Jul 27 @ 8:30 PM |
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lonewolf969
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destroying the dog because of the owners fault is dum and anthor thing is that the dog was trying to take care of the baby as one of it own
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| Jul 27 @ 8:42 PM |
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right2thepoint
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Dogs are incapable of jealousy. If they were then idiot dog owners could simply talk to their dogs. Dogs are pack animals and react to threats in their pack position. The Dog is fine. The owners should be jailed and nuetered.
Ask the Whisperer
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| Jul 27 @ 9:04 PM |
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Angel54214
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The dog wasn't being vicious per se, he was treating the baby like a puppy.
I wouldn't be able to even say this because I wasn't there to witness this dog lugging a less than a week old human infant through the house and out into the woods.
The infant has a cracked skull, collapsed lungs and broken ribs as well as teeth marks all over it's body. The infant is in critical condition! It may not survive this terrible thing.
If that was my infant baby....I would not hesitate to have that dog put away! They can always get another dog...but they cannot replace this gifted child.
destroying the dog because of the owners fault is dum and anthor thing is that the dog was trying to take care of the baby as one of it own
The news reports state that "no charges" are brought against the parents of the infant. It doesn't matter what the dog was "trying" to do or "why"....it's an animal and half wolf and they can not be totally domesticated (I know-I have raised them!). The point is this baby is fighting for it's life, and if he comes through, he may not lead a normal life. And if he dies? He's gone!
Once an animal taste "Human Blood"...it should be put down. Period!
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| Jul 27 @ 9:33 PM |
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lonewolf969
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Angel i will disagree with you i own 3 wolf hybreds (95%wolf and 5% husky) and yes they can be domesticated that not including other dogs i have in the shelter that i started and for your info all dogs can trace there roots back to the wolf that was domesticated
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| Jul 27 @ 9:36 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Capo: The child's parents should be spayed and neutered so that they do not produce more offspring whom they can neglect and leave susceptible to danger.
 ... Some people should not have kids.
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Angel: They are keeping it in quarantine for 10 days and the dog was given a rabies shot.
...Are they making sure the dog does not contract rabies from the child? 
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Angel: If that was my infant baby....I would not hesitate to have that dog put away!
...I would have killed it on the spot, when it attempted to get the baby in the house. I have never kept a dog around that even so much as growled at a child, any child, for anything that the child was doing around, or to the dog. Two year olds do not realize a dog might be territorial to it's feed dish, or residence and I would never take that chance.
...Our last female Akita would just sit back on her haunches and let the baby play in her dish, while also protecting that child from any other critters, or strange adults.
...We had a graduation party for my oldest son and somebody had a little girl toddler, that had an ice cream cone. She would take a lick, hold it out and the sitting dog would take a lick and this went on until the Mother came out raising hell... but the dog was doing the baby sitting and in one bite, could have had the whole cone, while the Mother did not have a clue where her daughter was.
...My parents on the other hand, had a dachshund that I wanted to kill more than once for nipping at the kids. I always locked that worthless mongrel up when any little kids were around.
...Children always come first before pets and although the dog is to blame, the parents are responsible for allowing it to happen.
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| Jul 27 @ 9:37 PM |
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lonewolf969
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right i do agree with you on puting the parents in jail and nuetered them
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| Jul 27 @ 9:47 PM |
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Angel54214
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...Are they making sure the dog does not contract rabies from the child?
From what I have read...yes! They have it in quarantine for 10 days and watching it's every move as well as doing lab tests.
SG...I have had many dogs just like the nice domestic onces you have had...no problems what so ever. But this dog is half wolf...My best friend in high school, which her family and my family raced sled dogs together for years...her baby sister Tara was mauled by 4 of the dogs and they were half wolf (but never showed any agression). She was shredded to pieces!! I was with them when she was at the hospital, while 15 doctors and staff tried to save her life. She was only 2. I still have the yearbook that has her picture with a memory poem. It breaks my heart to think of Tara.
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| Jul 27 @ 9:49 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Angel: From what I have read...yes! They have it in quarantine for 10 days and watching it's every move as well as doing lab tests.
...I was teasing, but too serious of a thread to laugh in. 
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| Jul 27 @ 9:54 PM |
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Angel54214
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...I was teasing, but too serious of a thread to laugh in.
I know...  But read my last post before this one and you will see why I am so strong on this.
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| Jul 27 @ 10:01 PM |
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BandTMom
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I am a dog lover. I grew up with dogs and have always had one or two around.
But..........
If one of those dogs mauled my child, I would have shot it on site. Children cannot be replaced. I am a very compassionate person, but compassion can only go so far when it comes to the life of one of life's most helpless creatures.
That dog wasn't treating the baby as a puppy. It was using it as a chew toy. 
Even if it was adopted out to say an older couple, what would keep it from snacking on grandpa's foot while he was asleep.
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| Jul 27 @ 11:14 PM |
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redhairNfreckles
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In this case, I think the dog should be removed from the home and adopted out to an older couple without kids. Whether he was treating the baby like "a puppy", who knows for sure? Ever watch a cat play with a mouse before it goes in for the kill? I feel this dog could never be trusted 100% ever again with small children.
With that said, I have a huge problem with a dog being called a "Native American Indian Dog".....wth?? Is this the newest fad to get attention paid to one culture ("look at me, look what I've got") at the expense of another....once again? Certain people are always looking for ways to make some money off someone else's back, I'm sure Native Americans are sick of it. If they are wolf-hybrids, which I'm sure that is all they are, then call them that. Don't invent some romantic version of what it truly is.
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| Jul 27 @ 11:20 PM |
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Angel54214
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Native American Indian Dog:
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/nativeamericanindiandog.htm
It's the same age as the one in the OP.
The Native American Indian Dog (or NAID) is a dog breed sold in North America. It is reported to be a mix of husky, Malamute, Chinook, German shepherd, and dogs from Indian reservations. There have also been claims that there is recent wolf heritage in some of these dogs. The Native American Indian Dog is frequently confused with others referred to as Indian dogs.
Breeders say they are attempting to recreate a type of dog of similar appearance to those shown in historical illustrations and photographs of dogs in native american villages, as well as from stories told by Native Americans about dogs owned by their ancestors, when available.
In May of 2008 a Native American Indian Dog was removed from a home in Michigan after local authorities suspected it of being a wolf-dog hybrid. The dog was later returned after tests and analysis were inconclusive either way.
A three-day-old baby boy was critically injured in July 2009 after the family's Native American Indian Dog picked the baby out of his crib and carried him 150 yards away from the family's house. Animal control took the dog away from the scene. The boy's father said the dog was "a Native American Indian" breed and said the breeder told him the dog's grandparentage as "90 percent wolf."
According to information provided to Dogbreedinfo.com, the breed is described as instinctual and territorial, cautious with strangers, but not vicious. They are said to be good family watchdogs, although not recommended for families with younger children. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_Indian_Dog
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| Jul 28 @ 12:13 AM |
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redhairNfreckles
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Native American Indian Dog:
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/nativeamericanindiandog.htm
....looks like a wolf crossed with a border collie....
I know several families over on the Cherokee Indian Reservation and they all own Pomeranians. I once asked one of them, "Why Pomeranians?" and he replied, "Because they fit better on the frybread!"  
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| Jul 28 @ 12:22 AM |
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lonewolf969
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angel i see your point of veiw then why did the parents do a breed search i came cross a site that said they do not do well with young childen
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| Jul 28 @ 2:17 AM |
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Angel54214
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angel i see your point of veiw then why did the parents do a breed search i came cross a site that said they do not do well with young childen
lonewolf...I can't answer your question because I don't know the people. But they did obtain the dogs (they have 2 which are siblings), from a breeder in Michigan and the grandparentage is 90% wolf, which makes this dog a hybrid. This is a rare breed and there's only a handful licensed breeders in the U.S. Very few veternarians are experienced with this canine breed in health care.
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