| Aug 31 @ 7:36 PM |
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Loreli
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Do you know what your Grandparents were taught? Parents?
What about you, your kids?
I'm not sure about my grandparents-one set was dirat poor, had a lot of common sense. They raised my Dad, so they sure did something right!
My parents learned much as I did-reading, writing, arithmetic, art, PE, music and science.
I read Steinbeck and the like. I took home ec. Social studies was a wide degree spanning all of the Presidents, Civil War,world wars and foreign affairs.
As did my boys, only they got to learn home ec (they learned that at home though!)
My daughter is in a wonderful elementary...
.is there a problem now days?
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| Aug 31 @ 7:42 PM |
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BandTMom
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Although he's only in 2nd grade, I am very happy with the education my boy is receiving.  So far the focus has been on Math and Reading with I feel are 2 of the most important skills a chilld needs to learn and build on.
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| Aug 31 @ 7:45 PM |
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painter007
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The only problem I see is not enough parent involvement in their kids schools.....jmo
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| Aug 31 @ 7:47 PM |
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CowboyX
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is there a problem now days?
It think the main problems are declining standards, and teachers having to prepare students extensively for standardized tests instead of the focusing on the lesson plans.
I do think there is a place for standardized testing in the schools (I had to pass a proficiency test in high school in addition to the normal graduation requirements). However, when testing is implemented in order to raise or maintain standards, while inadequate funding is provided to do so, the net result is a negative one (e.g., No Child Left Behind).
The only problem I see is not enough parent involvement in their kids school
Excellent point.
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| Aug 31 @ 8:46 PM |
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Jankia
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Heres the problems I see nowadays in my local school district Loreli.
They still focus on the teaching thats most needed like Math,Science and English and put a great emphasis on band,phys ed and sports...but.
It dropped Drivers Ed.
Is forcing each student to obtain Drivers Education by themselves.Not a good idea IMO because when these kids get licensed they wont be driving around by themselves.I'd rather they were all educated alike so they are all aware of the same instruction.
That might not seem necessary unless youve had a few teenagers. 
It doesnt put enough emphasis on Technical training.Kids cant go to work for a plumber,electrician,carpenter etc right after graduating like they could 30 years ago.They need to be educated and licensed if they want to ever advance.
No,you cant obtain a license with a highschool education but you can obtain the desire to get one.
Good schooling is developing that desire.
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| Aug 31 @ 8:51 PM |
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robodad
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Loreli said:
is there a problem now days? Yes, there is 
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| Aug 31 @ 9:15 PM |
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Loreli
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My kids loved school...
Jan-
They took driver's Ed out of some of the high schools here, and those kids had to pony up over 700.00 bucks, so it doesn't seem fair. 
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| Aug 31 @ 10:12 PM |
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kattsmeow
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Having worked at a school for 5 years, I have to say most are doing quite well. personally, I also think the parents should be involved in their child's school years.
Yes, there are some bad teachers, but the children can be just horrible..something should be done in the home about their manners.
In Michigan there is school of choice, plus vouchers for charter schools. I loved the idea of both of them.
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| Aug 31 @ 10:55 PM |
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Jankia
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They took driver's Ed out of some of the high schools here, and those kids had to pony up over 700.00 bucks, so it doesn't seem fair
Nope...not when you consider what school is for and who pays for what its supposed to do.
Whats more important to teach a sophmore in highschool an interactive class like Drivers Ed or Phy Ed?
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| Sep 1 @ 1:18 AM |
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chubs
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all in all, its just another brick in the wall 
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| Sep 1 @ 1:32 AM |
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CowboyX
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No dark sarcasm in the classroom! 
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| Sep 1 @ 4:20 AM |
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SensualGemini
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...I would agree, that it all starts at home. As far as I am concerned, the minimal education a child receives as mandatory, just makes them average when they finally arrive in the real world and have to compete with the total world.
...Today, Master degrees are floating around like a High School diploma was 40 years ago and unless specific and in a field of demand, they are still going to be flipping burgers... if that second language was Spanish.
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Loreli: Do you know what your Grandparents were taught? Parents?
...Something my parents were taught and I wasn't, nor were my sons, was penmanship. My Father has the most beautiful handwriting of any man I know of and that was from a one room school house that held 8 grades, in the middle of nowhere.
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| Sep 1 @ 4:32 AM |
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CPUfan
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I wrote with an ink pen until I was 16. I wrote with an electric typewriter from 23 to 28, then I wrote with a computer and a printer from 28 onwards. My writing skills continue to improve with practice though. Not in the speed or accuracy, but in the formulation and logic. LOL
Don't ask me what I wrote with from 16 to 23, I think it was pencil and ink biro.
I haven't used an ink pen to write anything since the 1980s.
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| Sep 1 @ 9:28 AM |
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eastham
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I get lots of compliments on my penmanship. I'm a lefty and the trade-off at my parochial school was excellent penmanship or learn to write with my right hand.
About a month or two ago, I was listening to NPR and they were interviewing a woman who had recently written a book on penmanship. She talked about the various methods and their hybrids. Most of us write a combination of script and printing.
That said, the handwriting in the old interment books is just breath-taking. Nothing beats a fountain pen.
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| Sep 1 @ 12:44 PM |
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daisy315
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I have always been picky about my penmanship.. that was a big thing in gradeschool.. we were graded on neatness. When working at the hospital, out notes had better be neat and the spelling accurate.. patient care depended on it.
before I leave work each morning I leave a note for Hannahs daughter , letting her know how she did during the night.. Hannahs daughter thinks my handwriting is gorgeous..
drivers ed was taught in school.. I think kids get more from being in a group when learning to drive.. they see the mistakes that the other kids are making and learn from them.. if they live through it 
I also had a class called "The Bible as Literature " in middle school.. I still think that was a way for a school to get around the fact that prayer was taken out of school.
I took landscaping in high school also.
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| Sep 1 @ 1:02 PM |
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eastham
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Standardized testing is big business. The Washington Post Company owns Kaplan and it is the company's single largest revenue source. Huntington Learning Centers and their competitors are traded on the exchange and their franchises are touted as good business propositions by the Wall Street Journal.
What stunned me after taking my 2nd job at a bookstore is that schools no longer provide all the mandatory reading material to their students. I'm not talking summer reading, but in-classroom reading. Families must purchase many of the books read in school. When I was a student, the teacher passed out dog-eared copies of Moby Dick, etc. Now, the students are required to buy them. For those students too poor to afford a $15 trade paperback, teachers front the money for the books out of their own pay checks.
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| Sep 1 @ 10:23 PM |
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Loreli
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They just said on the news, Iowa City is fighting to get year round schooling.
4 sessions, with 3 week breaks in between.
It came on the heels that "No Child Left Behind" said 2 schools were failing.
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| Sep 1 @ 10:31 PM |
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Jankia
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eastham- I get lots of compliments on my penmanship Thats a good trait to have.Mine is so poor I dont write anything anymore,its all done printing.I even had to change my autograph because after it was forged the bank told me to change it and add my middle name.
It didnt help my first and last name is only six letters total.I always had the shortest name in school until a pale rider showed up named Ed Key. 
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| Sep 2 @ 2:28 PM |
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Always_Striving
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is there a problem now days?
Divorced parents, fragmented households and livelihoods, a free for all run away approach to life.... live for today and worry about the consequences tommorrow, everyone has plenty of time to fix things when they get older (Carpe Diem).
Another factor is the selfishness. The "no kid left behind" policy was the biggest mistake our country has adopted.
If a child fails a grade then that child must repeat it until they pass it. No matter how much of an idiot it makes that child look, he or she has no right to lower scholastic standards or hold back the aptitude of others who are smarter.
The dummy is the one who should be punished not an entire age class, and a tailored curriculum should not be lowered just to accomodate one or two children who cannot meet the bell curve.
Punish the dummies and humiliate their families.... let the dummies leave school, join a gang, be a meth bum, or whatever.... it has always been their destiny anyway.
I like the philosophy of "having the village help to rear a child" but if the child and its parents are resistant or choose to be ignorrant then they all deserve to be banished from the village.
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| Sep 2 @ 2:47 PM |
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eastham
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Another factor is the selfishness. The "no kid left behind" policy was the biggest mistake our country has adopted.
Behind "No Child Left Behind" is the quest for the almighty dollar. Standardized testing and their test prep books are big business. Any wonder that Neil Bush was the CEO of one of the largest standardized test companies in the US? Just the new software study aid aspect of this industry brought in $1.9 billion according to Business Week in an article entitled,
"No Bush Left Behind."
Here in New York, I've seen the hollowed eyes of 2nd graders who are being test-prepped for fear of flunking the city-wide grade 3 pass or stay back test. It is awful. Kids are being taught to pass tests, not taught.
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