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Loreli
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This has been part of too many threads....so, let's knock it out here.
First-have you ever been on them?
If not, then 
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| Sep 23 @ 8:10 PM |
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eastham
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For several years now, green markets have been allowed to accept food stamps. In my old neighborhood in Brooklyn, the community supported agriculture program (CSA) went into the projects and offered gourmet cooking lessons, so people would know how to prepare the various veggies in their allotments. The "shares" programs was a huge success. Not only did so many families use their food stamp allotment to buy shares, it kept a local fam in businees. The farm in turn, provided a nice respite for kids from the project and for teens, some of them got jobs through the CSA and the green market and it led to a huge undeveloped piece of property being dedicated as a community garden.
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| Sep 23 @ 8:37 PM |
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Jankia
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| Sep 23 @ 9:08 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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Tommy Thompson, the last great republican, did some mighty fine work in revamping the policies regarding food stamps and government assistance. Setting limits and getting ride of the waste of the paper has been wonderful steps forward, yet fell short of what could been done.
I would have required skills training, and or mandate time to give back to the community of which you receive the support from. The stats are there's the facts show that it is hard to grow out of the environment that one grew up in. This is common knowledge, so not surprising that the children that grow up will tend to depend on it.
I this has been part of too many threads, Mostly in the use as a tool for attacks and smears. Their hate and ignorance shines so bright, I personally say let them at it. Let others see what kind of slim ball they are getting dubbed by. Hopefully the warning bells will ring then, or next thing ya know they have to fight be fighting to get their mail and personal belongings back from them as they are back online with their next victim. 
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| Sep 23 @ 9:23 PM |
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SensualGemini
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OP: First-have you ever been on them?
...Never and although I qualified many times, there is always a job, or two, or three someplace to feed my kids with and I am not going to take up a slot that some truly disabled, or elderly person needs.
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Burns: Setting limits and getting ride of the waste of the paper has been wonderful steps forward, yet fell short of what could been done.
...Clinton put the limits in Welfare time, while Obama and the Stimulus bill removed all time limits and come back when you need more.
...If eliminating paper was the greatest of the great, I can only imagine what the present 20% plus administrative expenses must have been for the government, paid for by the diminishing taxpayer. 
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| Sep 23 @ 9:40 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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I'm back.
Publucation, Working Families, Tommy Thompson.
Health Secretary supports current welfare funding - Nation - Tommy Thompson - Brief Article
National Catholic Reporter, Dec 14, 2001 by Gill Donovan
Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson told state Catholic conference directors Nov. 29 he will recommend that a bill to reauthorize a welfare reform program include funding at the current level, even though the number of people receiving assistance has been halved.
Thompson told the group during its annual meeting in Washington that it would be a mistake to cut back on the current block grants of $16.5 million given to the states to spend on the program now known as Temporary Assistance to Needy Families.
Under a welfare law passed in 1996, most of the administrative authority for the program passed to the states, which use a combination of state funds and the federal block grants. The legislation was designed to encourage welfare recipients to go to work, using a combination of incentives such as increased child-care funding and disincentives such as time limits on how long people can receive benefits.
Since then, welfare caseloads nationwide have dropped by 57 percent, a decrease of nearly 7 million people. The legislation must be reauthorized next year. Catholic social service agencies have been among those pushing for the reauthorization bill to include funding at the current level, so that available services can be expanded to cover more working poor families. The agencies have reported increased demand for food baskets and emergency funding from families that are no longer eligible for help through Temporary Assistance to Needy Families or food stamps, but don't make enough at low-paying jobs to cover expenses.
Thompson said he expects a fight with Congress over whether to fully fund Temporary Assistance to Needy Families at current levels. "But it's the right thing to do," he said.
Briefs, gathered from news services, correspondents and staff, are compiled and edited by Gill Donovan. Link
For several years now, green markets have been allowed to accept food stamps Which is awesome, the cash goes back to the local farmers, who will recycle it back to the community that's being shared. They can do even better though, community gardens.
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| Sep 23 @ 9:43 PM |
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SensualGemini
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...Come on Burns, this is almost the end of 2009, not 2001 in your quote. 
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Burns: Which is awesome, the cash goes back to the local farmers, who will recycle it back to the community that's being shared. They can do even better though, community gardens.
...Now, that is cool. 
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| Sep 23 @ 9:44 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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Breaking the welfare cycle
National Review, June 16, 1997 by Robert Rector
THE first historic battle in the war against the welfare state has been fought and won. The field of battle was Wisconsin, where Gov. Tommy Thompson's reforms have shattered a fifty-year legacy of dependency, and have left welfare apologists fleeing in disarray. Still, a single victory does not mean the war is won -- and back in Washington, D.C., and in state capitals around the nation, the hosts of high liberalism are girding for their counterattack.
Since taking office a decade ago, Gov. Thompson has waged an unremitting campaign against dependency and welfare bloat. The result: a 55 per cent drop in Wisconsin's Aid to Families with Dependent Children caseload. In inner-city Milwaukee, the welfare caseload has dropped by a third. Throughout much of the state, AFDC has been all but eliminated: in 28 of Wisconsin's 77 counties, the welfare caseload has shrunk by 80 per cent or more.
The story gets even better. Generally, as welfare rolls shrink, the most employable people exit first, leaving behind a core of more heavily dependent recipients. Thus, conventional wisdom would expect the decline of Wisconsin's caseload to slow and then halt. Exactly the opposite has happened. As Thompson implemented more rigorous reforms over the last two years, the pace of dependency reduction accelerated dramatically. Currently the AFDC rolls are plummeting downward by 2 per cent per month in Milwaukee and 4 per cent in the rest of the state. Overall, the caseload has dropped by almost one-third in the last year alone.
Meanwhile, as the chart (p. 20) shows, during much of the relevant period national caseloads were soaring. Although in the last two years the national AFDC caseload has fallen by 17 per cent, this represents only a peeling back of the explosive growth of dependency which occurred in the early Nineties, when AFDC nationwide rocketed up 35 per cent. In the majority of states, AFDC dependency remains higher today than when Ronald Reagan left the White House.
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| Sep 23 @ 9:45 PM |
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SensualGemini
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...Come on, that is 1997... are you going clear back to Roosevelt? 
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| Sep 23 @ 9:50 PM |
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SimplyImp
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mmmm... just finished marinated bbq chicken breast, bbq beets, steamed broccoli and rice. Anyone want some?
Total cost - $3.50 for the entire meal - with leftovers for two more full meals plus 3 more protein meals (not included in that $3.50).
Time it took - 2 minutes this morning to marinate the chicken - 15 minutes to bbq the chicken tonight, 1 minute to reheat the rice and beets, 5 minutes to steam the broccoli.
Dessert - pineapple smoothie - 5 minutes to prepare.
No, I have not collected food stamps as they are not available here. But I have been in a situation of not having any money, and so sick I was hospitalized for months on end, and unable to work - for years.
Luckily, I had loads of support, and although eligible for disability, I refused to acknowledge that I was disabled. And I refused to accept that I 'would never work again'. Yes, I received government assistance, and no, I did not sit on my fat azz and expect others to support me. In fact, I had no azz at that time.
It was a hand up, not a hand out. And I not only paid into it initially, I continue to pay into it. I did not live a luxury lifestyle and collect $3,200.00 per month like a neighbor here. I had one child, and received minimal allowance.
But I was damned if I was going to allow the government to run my life. And the only way out of that was to get a job, or make a job for myself.
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| Sep 23 @ 9:54 PM |
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MrPaul
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mmmm... just finished marinated bbq chicken breast, bbq beets, steamed broccoli and rice. Anyone want some?   Over here 
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| Sep 23 @ 9:57 PM |
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SimplyImp
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lol, Mr. Paul - come on over and pull up a chair! Company's always welcome 
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| Sep 23 @ 10:06 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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Welcome back SimpleImpers.
Thanks for sharing your story,
Most people on the system, for whatever the reason is, are not sitting on their fat asses in the first place, they are not allowed to.
Sure there are a few that will manipulate any environment that they are in, or try at least, but the majority will not.
You don't cut off the the roots when all that's needed it plucking a few stems.
My question is, you said, you were not on the system at the time due to it not being offered there, Why is it not?
S.G. if ya can't see why I post them dated articles, then there's no reason to point it out to you.
Have a good night.
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| Sep 23 @ 10:09 PM |
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SensualGemini
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...Paul, she just wants your camel, as it almost looks like her last horse. And do be careful with what she calls "chicken." If it was me, I would stay with the rice.
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| Sep 23 @ 10:09 PM |
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Jankia
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burns- Tommy Thompson, the last great republican,
The news is that hes on his way back....to run again as Governor.
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| Sep 23 @ 10:13 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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AWESOME!!!!
While Doyle has done a fair job, the state that was once the most progressive state has seem to gone stagnate in my opinion.
In my opinion, if the republican party wants it return to grace and power, they only need to turn to men like Tommy.
He was always willing and able to admit and learn from his mistake, at the end of the day he seems to do the right thing regardless of the party's stance or preference.
He doesn't stoop to dirty politics, or the nut shot games like the birthers and smear and fear campaign like the current leaders of the party.
He has my vote for president if he ever chooses to run again.
As he did last time he tried. I wonder where we would be today if he had won the ticket.
I highly doubt there would have been Iraqi war 2.
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| Sep 23 @ 10:13 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Burns: S.G. if ya can't see why I post them dated articles, then there's no reason to point it out to you.
Have a good night.
...You like Thompson, as you posted in every other thread?
...This is 2009 and the whole landscape has changed with the Stimulus bill virtually removing all past Welfare reform and following up with mass welfare, mass illegal immigration, mass unemployment, massive public and national debt, etc.
...It is no longer on the same page of what is happening today and will happen tomorrow.
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| Sep 23 @ 10:21 PM |
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SimplyImp
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My question is, you said, you were not on the system at the time due to it not being offered there, Why is it not?
Hi burns and thanks for the wb
I was not on food stamps, burns, as we don't have food stamps here. We do have welfare and unemployment insurance as well as disability.
..Paul, she just wants your camel, as it almost looks like her last horse. And do be careful with what she calls "chicken." If it was me, I would stay with the rice.
Maybe you should try some yourself, in person
Mr Paul, chicken is exactly that, delicious free range chicken, marinated and cooked to juicy perfection. mmmm mmmm.
Of course, comments like the above, could result in a Jeffrey Dahmer special
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| Sep 23 @ 10:26 PM |
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burnslikethesun
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Youre welcome and thank you for your thank you.
Ohhh ya a canukie.
I have to admit, I , like most Americans dont know much about your programs and policies up dare, with out a good google search
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| Sep 23 @ 10:36 PM |
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SensualGemini
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SI: Mr Paul, chicken is exactly that, delicious free range chicken
...I don't even want to know how you caught a free range chicken; is that like a buzzard, a hawk, maybe an owl, or whatever the catch of the day is?
... It reminds me a bit of how the city hunters from St. Louis shot a farmer's goat and tried to get it tagged at the dear check out.
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...Oh well, back to the welfare thread... hopefully, everyone has a full belly tonight.
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