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Laidback742
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Residents in Oregon apartment complex told to remove flags or face eviction.
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Personally I think every resident should buy a flag and hang it out their window. I'm sure the management would enjoy evicting all of them.
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| Oct 14 @ 6:41 PM |
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arieann
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Wow, I am really shocked but not really surprised. This country has become so,"dont offend" that people cant even be who they are.
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| Oct 14 @ 6:42 PM |
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arieann
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Double post. sorry. But, while I am back, God Bless America.
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| Oct 14 @ 7:01 PM |
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Josuha
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Time for another Tea Party.
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| Oct 14 @ 7:10 PM |
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SensualGemini
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...Now there is a novel approach to increase patriotism... tell everyone they cannot fly, nor display the flag and suddenly, millions will come out of the woodwork. I like it...
...Apparently, in the follow up news, this apartment manager read their own lease agreement...
KVAL News also contacted the American Civil Liberties Union to ask whether the policy banning flags from the apartment complex violated any laws. The answer from the ACLU: No. But Holcomb said she received different legal counsel that led her to believe she is wrong to ban the flags. "When a tenant rents the unit, the inside of the unit belongs to the tenant," Holcomb said Wednesday. "All automobiles and things attached to the automobiles are the personal property of the tenant." http://www.katu.com/news/local/64262707.html
...Interesting enough, is that someone can also display any flag, from any country as well.
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| Oct 14 @ 7:24 PM |
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Jankia
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I'm not certain to the validity of this but all tenants that had to remove our American flag were offered this in exchange.
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| Oct 14 @ 7:48 PM |
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SensualGemini
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  "Change has come...."
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| Oct 14 @ 7:49 PM |
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Paralegal_at_Law
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It is written:
"The Liberals are running amok with their political correctness conspiracy to violate the civil rights of American Citizens."
Only a Liberal could be so intolerant as to wage war on the display of an American flag.
Told you they were "useful idiots."
The Premier Precision Thinker's viewpoint.
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| Oct 14 @ 8:01 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Para: Told you they were "useful idiots."
...Yes, you did.
...I can remember when weed grew everyplace, including thousands of acres for a hemp farm not too far away and nobody smoked the crap. Then along comes government and says no, you cannot smoke what you did not smoke anyway and suddenly, everyone wanted to defy the man and smoke a joint.
...Yes, tell them they cannot fly their flags and I will be investing in whatever stock of the companies that make them as a sure winner.
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| Oct 15 @ 1:32 AM |
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MrPaul
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| Oct 15 @ 9:34 AM |
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southernlass
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One of my tenants flies his flag daily on my property. I'm proud that he cares enough about our America to fly it.
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| Oct 15 @ 10:09 AM |
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SimplyImp
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SL One of my tenants flies his flag daily on my property. I'm proud that he cares enough about our America to fly it.
I think this is great! However, there was a lot of outrage over a swastika flag being flown earlier this year, and even yesterday when a swastika was carved into a golf course over Obama's name.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/13/crimesider/entry5381744.shtml
I guess it kind of boils down to - freedom of expression. Although the damage to the golf course is unacceptable, and many would find the message offensive - is it right to restrict the freedom of expression if it was done on a person's own property?
If "freedom of expression" was truly a freedom - why is the secret service looking into the carving of the swastika on the golf course? Yes, I can see that if it is perceived as a possible threat on the Presidents life, that it would be prudent to investigate. But at what point does paranoia set in?
At what point do you restrict another's right to freedom of expression in order to express your own?
A number of years ago, everyone in Canada was offered a free flag from the government. The response was tremendous. And personally, I think everyone should fly the flag of the country they are residing in.
After all, if you don't like the country you're residing in and you're not proud to be there - there are other countries available that may be more to your liking.
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This kind of reminds me of the day I streaked a bar when I was younger. (No, I was not drunk). The manager of the bar called the cops and when the cops (all 7 of the police units) arrived, the cop asked me if I was "the streaker". When I nodded in the affirmative, his words were "siht, I missed it".
After taking me out to the police car, he took me back in to the bar and advised the manager that he could let it go and there would be no repercussions, or charge me and have 200 streakers in there the next night.
The manager chose to let it go. (There's a whole lot more to that story, but that will suffice for now  )
[Edited on 10/15/2009 10:18 AM]
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| Oct 16 @ 12:55 AM |
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Angel54214
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From Laidback's link...an update:
Flag ban lifted at Oaks Apartments after outcry
Oct 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM
ALBANY, Ore. -- Flags are OK again at an Albany apartment complex after the property manager reviewed the policy and decided she didn't have the legal standing to ban flags from the exteriors of apartments and vehicles parked at the complex.
"If people want to fly any flag of any nationality, it's their right," said Barb Holcomb with Oaks Apartments.
KVAL News also contacted the American Civil Liberties Union to ask whether the policy banning flags from the apartment complex violated any laws. The answer from the ACLU: No.
But Holcomb said she received different legal counsel that led her to believe she is wrong to ban the flags.
"When a tenant rents the unit, the inside of the unit belongs to the tenant," Holcomb said Wednesday. "All automobiles and things attached to the automobiles are the personal property of the tenant."
Holcomb said the flag ban was based on interpretation of two sections of the rental agreement all tenants sign.
"What we were trying to do was to keep the peace," she said, declining to say whether a specific incident sparked enforcement of the ban. "Obviously, we were wrong. If the peace needs to be kept, it belongs to the police department."
She said her boss has stood by her -- both when she enforced the policy and when she lifted it.
"I made a policy. I was wrong," she said. "My boss is a wonderful man. He backed me 100 percent -- even when I was wrong."
The story garnered national attention because of the ban on American flags, although the policy did not specifically single out the U.S. flag and allow the flags of other nations.
The result for Holcomb: Numerous phone calls from the media.
"If they want to speak to me, they speak to me," she said of the calls. "If they want to yell at me, they yell at me."
KVAL News asked whether she had talked to the resident who originally went to the media with the story. Holcomb said no, although she said she would talk to him -- and would have talked to him before he went to the media. Holcomb said he did not approach her before talking to KVAL News partner KATU.
"He's just a romping, stomping patriot," Holcomb said. http://www.katu.com/news/local/64262707.html
The original story was published...Oct 12, 2009 at 8:54 PM
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