| Nov 23, 2009 @ 4:56 AM |
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SensualGemini
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Domestic Muslim terrorist suspect arrested. The men, who became close friends in a military academy outside Islamabad, were arrested last month in Chicago. They are charged with plotting an attack they labeled the Mickey Mouse Project against Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper whose cartoons provoked outrage across the Muslim world.
...Yet, after a 2 year prison term for conspiring to smuggle heroin from Pakistan, Daood Gilani worked for the DEA.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 5:24 AM |
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Gallows_Humor
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I don't get it..
They are charged with plotting an attack they labeled the Mickey Mouse Project against Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper
is an act of...Domestic terrorism????
how bout calling a shovel..a shovel??
and..
Yet, after a 2 year prison term for conspiring to smuggle heroin from Pakistan, Daood Gilani worked for the DEA.
this has been going on ever since the 70's.... (right or wrong..it is what it is...)
bust a mouse..... he sings.. for compensation ( sometimes) and a reduced sentence.. so they can bust a rat....going up the chain..till they get the tiger....
the problem is.( sometimes) ..the rats sing out a competitors tune....( read: they play/work the system..)
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 2:12 PM |
(Another) Domestic Muslim terrorist suspect arrested...
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SensualGemini
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GH: I don't get it..
...Rather than posting 3 pages of quotes, I presumed most could figure out how to 'click' the link (it is in blue). 
Hint: Accused of participating in both international and domestic terrorist issues.
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GH: is an act of...Domestic terrorism????
how bout calling a shovel..a shovel??
..."Domestic," as living in the US. 
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 2:38 PM |
(Another) Domestic Muslim terrorist suspect arrested... |
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lacyvsq
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What a piece of spun 'journalism' the linked article is! (Almost as good as the headline to this thread...)
(Hate Muslim...hate Muslims...hate Muslims...HATE MUSLIMS!!!! Are you getting the message yet?)
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Mr. Headley, 49, and Mr. Rana, 48, stand out from the young, poor extremists from fundamentalist Islamic schools who strike targets in or close to their homelands. Instead, their privileged backgrounds, extensive travel and bouts of culture shock make them more like Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-proclaimed architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, who attended college in the United States, and Mohammed Atta, one of the lead hijackers.
Read former (or continuing?) CIA operatives... Indeed!:
In 1998, Mr. Gilani, then 38, was convicted of conspiring to smuggle heroin into the country from Pakistan. Court records show that after his arrest, he provided so much information about his own involvement with drug trafficking, which stretched back more than a decade, and about his Pakistani suppliers, that he was sentenced to less than two years in jail and later went to Pakistan to conduct undercover surveillance operations for the Drug Enforcement Administration.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 3:04 PM |
(Another) Domestic Muslim terrorist suspect arrested...
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SensualGemini
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Lacy: Read former (or continuing?) CIA operatives... Indeed!:
...It was noted as DEA and not the CIA, as William Headely was born as Daood Sayed Gilani and for a reduced sentence, became an informer.
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Lacy: (Hate Muslim...hate Muslims...hate Muslims...HATE MUSLIMS!!!! Are you getting the message yet?)
...As previously outlined as the Congressional definition of a terrorist and besides your beloved illegal aliens that are filling up our prison systems, the only ones cutting off heads and flying planes into buildings, are the "radical" Muslims.
...And then we have the nut cases like John Allen Muhammad, the Beltway sniper who killed anyone at random.
...Yet, just as we demand that other countries control their "terrorists," we are equally responsible to not allow our own homegrown to commit terrorist actions in other countries.
...If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck and so, keep 'quacking' your conspiracy nonsense. After all, you argued for pages of Nidal Hassan's potential innocence as another conspiracy. You argued for pages and pages that illegal aliens are not a threat, are all wonderful, law abiding people that just want to work.  
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 4:30 PM |
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lacyvsq
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After all, you argued for pages of Nidal Hassan's potential innocence as another conspiracy
Under the law, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
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Homegrown is not a synonym for domestic. The suspect here may be 'made in the US', but there is no evidence even being spun of 'domestic terrorism'.
Also, Muslim is not synonymous with terrorist -- although it is being spun that way. Freedom of religion and speech is going right out the window in this country when the religion is Muslim and the speech can be twisted to be at all sympathetic to nations and peoples where Islam predominates.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 4:39 PM |
(Another) Domestic Muslim terrorist suspect arrested...
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Nightowl001
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...If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck Last I checked, probably worked for a defense, but falls far short of proof in court for a conviction.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 4:52 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Lacy: Homegrown is not a synonym for domestic. The suspect here may be 'made in the US', but there is no evidence even being spun of 'domestic terrorism'.
...Domestic "terrorist" is a noun and domestic "terrorism" is a verb, so maybe try to quote on topic of what was said and not what you presume to have been.
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Lacy: Also, Muslim is not synonymous with terrorist...
...Further comprehension issues? Nobody said they were, but rather "radical Muslims" was the quote.
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SG: ...As previously outlined as the Congressional definition of a terrorist and besides your beloved illegal aliens that are filling up our prison systems, the only ones cutting off heads and flying planes into buildings, are the "radical" Muslims.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 4:56 PM |
(Another) Domestic Muslim terrorist suspect arrested...
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SensualGemini
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Night: Last I checked, probably worked for a defense, but falls far short of proof in court for a conviction.
...To my knowledge, there is no law against being a conspiracy nutcase.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 5:17 PM |
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lacyvsq
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...To my knowledge, there is no law against being a conspiracy nutcase.
Funny, because I too thought you were trying more to convict radical Muslims of being terrorists, than trying to convict anyone of being a conspiracy nutcase...
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So would a conspiracy nutcase be anyone who believes the conspiracy story officially promulgated by the 911 commission? Or one who believes the conspiracy story of Saddam Hussein having WMDs that were shipped off to Syria? Those who believe any story the government conspires to tell us?
I will proudly claim that I like conspiracy theories. I like questioning and investigating and examining evidence rather than reading stories and taking them all at face value.
...Domestic "terrorist" is a noun and domestic "terrorism" is a verb...
 Oh really? Do you have a link for that? (Seriously, do you think you are going to teach me about grammar and reading comprehension?)
Lacy: Also, [radical] Muslim is not synonymous with terrorist...
There. I corrected my prior post. Are you happy now?
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 5:28 PM |
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Nightowl001
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The men, who became close friends in a military academy outside Islamabad, were arrested last month in Chicago. They are charged with plotting an attack they labeled the Mickey Mouse Project against Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper whose cartoons provoked outrage across the Muslim world.
Your comprehension skills are getting weaker by the post.
This isn't a matter of believing in a conspiracy against this individual. It's a matter of which conspiracy do you believe? Do you believe some guy, a former DEA operative now living in Chicago, was planning, with others, to fly a third of the way around the world, as part of a plot called The Mickey Mouse Project (the Mickey Mouse Project?!?), to attack a newspaper office for having published cartoons that Muslims found offensive?
From SG's linked article: United States and Indian investigators are also looking into whether the two Chicago men, who traveled to Mumbai before the deadly assault there last November, may have been involved in the plot.
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Mr. Headley, 49, and Mr. Rana, 48, stand out from the young, poor extremists from fundamentalist Islamic schools who strike targets in or close to their homelands. Instead, their privileged backgrounds, extensive travel and bouts of culture shock make them more like Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-proclaimed architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, who attended college in the United States, and Mohammed Atta, one of the lead hijackers.
Sure, all the convicted felons I know jet set around the world at a whim. They're all just sitting around with no jobs and tons of money to do stuff, willing to carry out suicide missions in the name of a religion they don't seem to be particularly pious about. (Is anyone besides me wondering why Homeland Security doesn't seem to care that a convicted felon has a passport and can get on an airplane to travel to Mumbai?)
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 5:29 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Lacy: (Seriously, do you think you are going to teach me about grammar and reading comprehension?)
...Apparently, someone needs to. 
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Lacy: So would a conspiracy nutcase be anyone who believes the conspiracy story officially promulgated by the 911 commission? Or one who believes the conspiracy story of Saddam Hussein having WMDs that were shipped off to Syria? Those who believe any story the government conspires to tell us?
...Now see, there is a prime example of the public buying into what the liberal media was shoving down their throats, as the facts were readily available for anyone that could read.
...No, he never had nuclear, but along with Iran and North Korea, he would certainly be added to that list of concerns today. It is the biological weapons that are arguably equally dangerous, as troops bring these home and spread the slow death to the country.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 5:45 PM |
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lacyvsq
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..Apparently, someone needs to.
Please try! Where is that link where terrorism is identified as a verb?
(Is anyone besides me wondering why Homeland Security doesn't seem to care that a convicted felon has a passport and can get on an airplane to travel to Mumbai?)
Not me! Criminal thugs working for the US government rarely have any problem getting passports. Even those Saudi's coming into the country purportedly to fly planes into buildings had no problem getting visas from our embassy.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 5:48 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Night: This isn't a matter of believing in a conspiracy against this individual. It's a matter of which conspiracy do you believe? Do you believe some guy, a former DEA operative now living in Chicago, was planning, with others, to fly a third of the way around the world, as part of a plot called The Mickey Mouse Project (the Mickey Mouse Project?!?), to attack a newspaper office for having published cartoons that Muslims found offensive?
...First, he was not a DEA operative, not the CIA, not James bond, but rather an informer for the DEA for an early release, period.
...Mickey Mouse and cartoons... get it?
...Myself, I will believe the facts as they unfold, while I termed this individual as being a "suspect" and you talk about comprehension issues.
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Night: Sure, all the convicted felons I know jet set around the world at a whim. They're all just sitting around with no jobs and tons of money to do stuff, willing to carry out suicide missions in the name of a religion they don't seem to be particularly pious about. (Is anyone besides me wondering why Homeland Security doesn't seem to care that a convicted felon has a passport and can get on an airplane to travel to Mumbai?)
...How many convicted felons do you know, that had/have international connections for drug smuggling?
...There was no mention of the suspects carrying out suicide missions, but rather their support in terrorism. No conspiracy concept required, as it is simply a fact that Muslims support radical Muslim terrorists.
...Why cannot a felon, or his alleged accomplice, also from Pakistan, but a Canadian and running a business in Chicago, acquire a passport? Are you now suggesting that Homeland Security should profile every Muslim, or just Muslims that were released early from drug charges some time ago?
...One of my few liberal tendencies, is that once someone has paid the price for the crime, they are as free as anyone else and unconstitutional to deprive them of the same equality. Now, if their early release, if a parole is issued based on restrictions and the convicted individual agrees, then that is different.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 5:54 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Lacy: Please try! Where is that link where terrorism is identified as a verb?
...Apparently, that is all you have left?
...Terrorism was/is a noun, while the actual act of terrorism is a verb. To commit terrorism, commit is the verb, while I agree with Kavalec, that terrorism as now rhetorical, is now an irregular verb.
...Come on, stay up with the times.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 6:19 PM |
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lacyvsq
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OK...so terrorism is not a verb, but a noun...just like terrorist! In fact a terrorist is one who commits the act of terrorism! And a domestic terrorist is one who commits domestic terrorism!
Domestic connotes that we are keeping everything at 'home' -- and of course someone within the home terrorizing the home is more fearsome even than one from outside the home. Was that your intent? The spin?
It is a big game of government to make lots of noise about arrests. It will be interesting to see if we ever hear of these guys being convicted.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 6:45 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Lacy: And a domestic terrorist is one who commits domestic terrorism!
...More drivel...
...A domestic heart surgeon practicing in Africa is a still a US doctor. And terrorism is now an irregular verb, as it is now rhetorical.
...You can spell, but your grammar and thus, your comprehension sucks!
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 6:56 PM |
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lacyvsq
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Let me correct your post:
...A domestic heart surgeon practicing in Africa is a still a US doctor. And terrorism is now an irregular verb, as it is now rhetorical.
..More drivel...
I know you are just making this up... Look at how you have hijacked your own thread... 
...your comprehension sucks!
Sometimes...usually when I try too hard to make sense of your incoherent messages...
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 7:08 PM |
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SensualGemini
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Lacy: I know you are just making this up... Look at how you have hijacked your own thread.
...Nobody seems to care about terrorists, as the majority presume, if not depend on big government to take care of them.
...So yes, the point is probably mute.
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| Nov 23, 2009 @ 7:41 PM |
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lacyvsq
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Actually moot...
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