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HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords


Jan 18, 2007 @ 3:33 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
Artemis122


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Please don't Laugh -- my New Year's Resolution is/was setting NEW passwords, starting with Emails then UserNames, etc. but I have to "Take a Step Backward" because I have totally LOST and Confused myself most definitely...

what I've done so far (because Google Help gave a Verdict of weak, medium & strong in developing passwords on their site... in using Characters and Numbers so I TRIED to follow their example...) I have used my Favorite words coupled with zip codes, ATM & phone # shown backwards, etc. I am having such a Purposeful self-induced Lesson of "What NOT to do to Outsmart the Hackers??" and trying to Gracefully ESCAPE this Stunt...

What are Good Clues to use in setting Passwords?? Before my Travels I've always written down my Passwords "contiguously" from email then ATM all the way to Voicemail... and Pray that I find that Piece of Paper in my Purse... so much for me not being a Techie Geek.....

At this point, any Hints or Pointers would HELP, Thanks in Advance!!
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Jan 18, 2007 @ 4:54 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
T_i_m


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I use rather cryptic passwords like ©µª¥½§ or AqUa1234bLuE and use the Wand Password Manager in Opera to remember them. I keep the passwords in a file on my system and copy and paste them when needed.
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Jan 19, 2007 @ 8:47 AM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
nah12


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the main thing is to use a sequence that is easy for you to remember....example
the 1st letter of a phrase of words or a song title or even a keyboard sequence....
I use a keyboard sequence because i have to have so many different passwords and have to change them often,( i have 6 different ones right now for work that i use everyday not counting the oddball ones...plus all the ones i have for my personal use and they are all different....lol)

An example would be: going down your keyboard QAZwsx12)( ...or go across your keyboard !@34ASDzxc or 2 or three on each end 12QW09poz/ and use the shift key or not.... i know it sounds crazy but it's just what ever makes it easy for you to remember and you know they say not to write them down ...lol...i know hard to do....here is another example "Mary had a little Lamb 1234" would be MhalL12#$..clear as mud you say... i know sorry if i confused you more....

You could buy a small thumb drive just for passwords and have nothing on it except passwords but becareful because if you lose it then someone has them all the same goes for writing them down......there are also several password keeper programs out there just research it......
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Jan 19, 2007 @ 4:00 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
Artemis122


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I keep the passwords in a file on my system
yes, T_i_m, but my Worst Nightmare would be having an Uninvited VIRUS and not able to do "Sys Boot-Up" on my C:\ and I am not C+ Certified..... As always, I Value your Suggestions... but I have thought of posting my Password File onto a Diskette so that I can do "recovery" at a Local Library if necessary...

i know it sounds crazy but it's just what ever makes it easy for you to remember and you know they say not to write them down ...lol...i know hard to do....here is another example "Mary had a little Lamb 1234" would be MhalL12#$..clear as mud you say... i know sorry if i confused you more....
yes, nah (as Clear as Mud... ) and I Appreciate your Suggestion of a "Song Title..." btw, I know we haven't met, but Back!! Oops, sorry...

So far I've decided to "create" only five [5] passwords mainly used from Personal to Financial Matters to Email to Voicemail to Miscellaneous... (Thank God only gave me five fingers used for counting on each hand... )

YOU have given me a Ray of Sunshine in my moment of Frustration... Thanks!!

TGIF
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Jan 20, 2007 @ 12:28 AM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
T_i_m


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From http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/privacy/password.mspx

Avoid sequences or repeated characters. "12345678," "222222," "abcdefg," or adjacent letters on your keyboard do not help make secure passwords.

Similarly, patterns made by just going down rows of keys sequentially (like, qwerty or q2w3e4r5t6y or ~!@#$%^&*()_+) are in password cracking algorithms and should be avoided.

The site URL above is a good place to start for ideas.
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Jan 22, 2007 @ 4:46 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
nah12


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First HI Artemis nice to meet you!

You are right Tim, even with that said, i crack passwords everyday at work (legally of course...LOL). It takes less than 3 mins to crack and reset one...

The thing to remember is passwords are like door locks they are for the honest souls out there and it's what makes it easier for you with trying to apply one by the standards technology suggest. The main thing they tell you is not to use your name, birth date, kids names or words that are in the dictionary..hey that leaves a lot doesn't it... . Just try to make them at least 10-12 characters long and something that makes it easy for you to remember. Because if they really want in they can get in your stuff. But also don't leave yourself sitting there cursing because you can't get into your own stuff. Now that's a real pain in the ole asis



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Jan 22, 2007 @ 5:10 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
SunBabe


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But also don't leave yourself sitting there cursing because you can't get into your own stuff. Now that's a real pain in the ole asis

Like the 50 different accounts that I had to abandon when I first got online and thought up a new password for each and every one of them? (which reminds me...I need to locate my PayPal info -- I KNOW there's money in there...I just forget who I was and what [now abandoned] email I used )
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Jan 22, 2007 @ 5:24 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
nah12


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(which reminds me...I need to locate my PayPal info -- I KNOW there's money in there...I just forget who I was and what [now abandoned] email I used

Lordy do i know that one allllllll to well also.....

dang Sun was that the
Username: PayUpNow
Password: HaveGunWillTravel

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Jan 22, 2007 @ 8:17 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
Artemis122


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ok... I took your advices to heart and started "mumbling and juggling" characters and numerics up and down, finally arriving at decision to either Download them onto an USB Flash Drive (as nah suggested as "small thumb drive") all written in the Webdings font, or into the Draft Folder in my private email, or onto the soles of my Adidas using a permanent marker...

so far I have sheets of paper Scribbled with my "hieroglyphics" which I don't understand anymore BUT I do have five (5) Passwords designed and developed, if only I can READ them to myself... I SAY -- Never Give Up!!

(sidenote: I shoulda followed that Guy who wrote a Blog this morning about having a Heavy-Duty Hangover from Friday night's bout of booze... I shoulda grabbed onto his Coattail... i swear, I had the same Headache... )
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Jan 22, 2007 @ 11:18 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
T_i_m


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all written in the Webdings font. . .

Webdings offers no real additional security. Don't make things harder than they need to be.
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Jan 25, 2007 @ 7:28 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
ToucherinSparks


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The flash drive idea is a good one, here's another that I use. I save all my passwords in a file that I encrypted using PGP, then I emailed myself a copy of the encrypted file to a yahoo account that I use. That way, I can go to any public computer, log on to yahoo and retrieve my passwords anytime I need them.
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Jan 29, 2007 @ 11:31 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
Clearwaterblues


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passwordsafe.com is a start for keeping up. It's very easy and helps a lot. What I do is open a "new site" in the menu and just hit keys. I get a random password, save it along with the site name and address and select a catagory if needed and go! It also has a downloadable password safe that you can easily check but not edit. best of all it's free. Hope I'm not too late or you found a solution.
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Feb 1, 2007 @ 5:11 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
Artemis122


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Melanie,
THX for "sharing" the passwordsafe.com I finally got a Chance to take the Tour and it's a NEAT website.... and as I am reading the Testimonial Page, it's totally AWESOME...
Hope I'm not too late or you found a solution.
I've narrowed down to three (3) passwords, but then I found out Matchdoctor only allows "a through z, and 0 through 9" but it was an Amazing Experience learning to "think outside the Box" AGAIN...
Kudos to you!!

you Newbie you!!
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Feb 1, 2007 @ 5:51 PM HELP -- how to Set & Remember "new" Passwords    
T_i_m


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From https://www.passwordsafe.com/faq/

While we take every security precaution, we do not recommend storing sensitive information such as bank account passwords.

I would never store ANY of my passwords on some site no matter how safe they say it is.

To make easy-to-remember passwords, try using a mnemonic*. For example in Star Trek, the starship Enterprise registry number is 1701. A password could be star1701ship. To make it more secure, you could always use a pattern of starting with the first letter and making it uppercase like StAr1701ShIp or making the first half upper case like STAR1701ship.

Or maybe your favorite radio station is WABC FM 105.9. You password could be radio1059WABC.


*From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic

Mnemonics rely not only on repetition to remember facts, but also on associations between easy-to-remember information and to be remembered lists of data, based on the principle that the human mind much more easily remembers data attached to spatial, personal, or otherwise meaningful information than that occurring in meaningless sequences. The sequences must have some connection to a person's existing semantic associations; if a random mnemonic is made up, it is not necessarily a memory aid.


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