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| Apr 28 @ 10:37 AM |
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Makya
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How does the code differ between css, xhtml and html?
Which do you believe is easiest to work with?
What are some basics you should understand when working with css?
What are the basics you should understand when working with html?
What are some basics you should understand when working with xhtml?
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| Apr 28 @ 11:40 AM |
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capobeachguy
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HTML and XHTML are essentially the same (XHTML is a stricter and cleaner version of HTML and is aimed to replace HTML).
CSS was added as a means to standardize the "look and feel" of pages for a given web site by moving the definition of text fonts, sizes, colors, etc. as well as table and layout definitions out of the HTML to a separate area. Often, instead of having to individually alter each and every web page for a site to change its look, only the CSS would need to be changed.
CSS also offers much more detailed attributes than plain HTML/XHTML.
CSS only needs to be downloaded once. When viewing the rest of the site the CSS will be cached in the computer and therefore speed up the loading time.
I would suggest you either buy a book or do some searches on the internet such as "HTML tutorial" and/or "CSS tutorial".
If you are using web page building software such as Dream Weaver or Front Page, all of this is done for you (although usually less efficiently).
Best of luck!!! 
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| Apr 28 @ 6:01 PM |
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sealacamp
Posts: 2,925
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Well since you have asked so many questions I won't try to answer them all. That would be a course in web page development. I will say that everything you asked about has tons of reference material and tutorials online for free. So if you don't mind spending the time and doing some experimentation you can figure it all out. Lots of reference books are available as well. And if you can understand all of it then you should advance toward asp.net which you can get for free from Microsoft.
In fact if you look at the URL for this page you will see "www.matchdoctor.com/forumPostReply.aspx?..." the aspx in that URL would indicate that this page is written in and updated by asp.net software and web development tools. This can all get very complicated before it is all over so I would suggest that you stick with HTML or XHTML for now and then move forward later.
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| Apr 28 @ 7:26 PM |
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Makya
Posts: 1,127
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Thing is, I am in school now for web developement  Its just that have gone through three semesters already, two classes each, and have only gotten so far as intro to computers. How to manipulate word docs and such. I already know that stuff! Its killing me! I just want to get to the more interesting stuff already.
I know how to manipulate code already. I want to start authoring it. College always make you take extra English, Math, stuff like Psyc, I'm not trying to be a psychiatrist or social worker. Why do I even have to take Psyc?
Just being impatient. Wanna know now rather than later. Figured someone here who knew how to author the code could possibly jump start me.
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| Apr 28 @ 8:19 PM |
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capobeachguy
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Fair enough, start here.
Best of luck!!!
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| Apr 28 @ 9:51 PM |
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Makya
Posts: 1,127
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Thanks Cap
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| Apr 28 @ 10:46 PM |
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lj450
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I bought Microsoft Expression Web last year, thinking I could "figure it out" and make my own website. pffftttt
That shit is hard as hell.
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| Apr 29 @ 12:18 AM |
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Makya
Posts: 1,127
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I just love it Lj. I never get tired of it.
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| Apr 29 @ 8:12 PM |
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sealacamp
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If in fact you are looking to author code then HTML anything is a piece of cake. What you need to check out for the deep end is JAVA, C#.NET, Visual Basic.NET for starters. If you find that easy and continue to delve into those you won't have any trouble with any future ones you may come across from what I have see.
I just finished my into into SQL and it was not that big of a deal because of the back ground in the aforementioned languages as well as HTML and ASP.NET.
You can start here with C#.NET and look around this site for in depth tutorials on every programming flavor available now including HTML, ASP.NET and various web development issues. However don't neglect the database as it will be needed for any application you may find yourself involved in.
C# Tutorial Online
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| Apr 29 @ 9:02 PM |
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Makya
Posts: 1,127
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Thanks Seal
I already learned quite a bit from Caps link, so I hope to learn more from yours.
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| Apr 30 @ 4:12 AM |
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nah12
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Mayka i know most do not want to hear it and had rather jump right into coding, but IMO if you really want to program the smartest thing you can do 1st is to take a programming logic course or study it on your own... it's not about coding it's about how to follow the logic and where to look and what to do and when you know the steps and what to look for it makes coding much easier...
Also C# and C++ and .Net do a lot of coding for you behind the scenes and you don't have to know as much as with some of the older languages but if you know the older more intense ones like C it will make the others a piece of cake...
Of course that’s just MO....... good luck!
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| Apr 30 @ 7:29 AM |
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Makya
Posts: 1,127
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Is programming logic the same as Math logic? Before the last math class I have to take, I have a choice between logic and pre-calculus. My math teacher said never choose logic. She said its insanely hard and unless your going into a field where it is neccessary.....take pre-calculus. 
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| Apr 30 @ 9:04 AM |
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capobeachguy
Posts: 3,549
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Boolean algebra would be the mathematics of logic.
Perhaps, Makya, you could tell us what your ultimate goals are.
Your initial post dealt with CSS, HTML and XHTML which are all coded to work with a browser to present pages of a web site.
Later, ASP got introduced into the thread..but it runs on the server side. It does produce HTML, but its purpose is quite different.
Now, people are discussing programming languages (unfortunately most of the ones I've seen mentioned are from Microsoft) and database access (SQL) which don't necessarily deal with the internet at all (SQL has been in existence for more than 30 years).
So, what do YOU want to do?
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| Apr 30 @ 10:57 AM |
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Makya
Posts: 1,127
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Build and maintain websites. 
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| Apr 30 @ 3:28 PM |
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nah12
Posts: 3,600
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Makya you might compare programming logic with the complete instructions of making a pb&j...
to say get 2 slices of bread and a jar of pb and a jar of jelly and a knife and spread the bp and jelly on the bread is not complete....
now think if you were programming a robot how to make a pb&j and that had no knowledge of what you were talking about and how detailed and all the steps it would take to accomplish the task... how many steps do you think would be taken for granted and instructions forgotten to be given for... it's all in the complete set of details... what steps it takes and what not to forget and what happens if it doesn't work.....
(where to get the bread, how to get there to get it, what is a bag, how to open the bag, what is a slice of bread and on and on)
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| Apr 30 @ 5:33 PM |
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sealacamp
Posts: 2,925
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Later, ASP got introduced into the thread..but it runs on the server side. It does produce HTML, but its purpose is quite different.
Actually ASP.NET or Active Server Pages runs on a server, online, and through a database. This is an incorporation of all necessary components into one piece of software writing tool. It does operate online using HTML and XML which can be modified within the tool itself. Of course if you don't know what you are modifying it is hard to know what part to change or add to. For web development ASP.NET and AJAX among others are just as integral as HTML which, these days, is just the tip of the iceberg.
Build and maintain websites.
If that is your ultimate goal then HTML is a starting point not a destination. There are many steps in order to obtain your goal and be a polished professional at it.
BTW Nah's comparative scenario is accurate. There is much more to think about than just writing the code. That is what testing is all about, so you can find and fix your bugs. Incidentally without an IDE bugs created in HTML are hard to find and fix. ASP.NET has an IDE so any bugs you create are easier to find and fix. Of course most JAVA programming doesn't use and IDE either and that is what makes it so much more difficult than and .NET language you may happen to choose.
If you want to find out what the ASP.NET is like you can get Microsoft Visual Web Developer Express Edition 2008 for free from Microsoft. I think you will find that it is all you need to create and maintain web pages unless you get very complicated. But you really should learn HTML inside and out first so you know what is going on behind the scenes, as Nah suggested with other programming.
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[Edited on 4/30/2008 5:39 PM]
[Edited on 4/30/2008 5:41 PM]
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| May 3 @ 9:34 AM |
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jopusx
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OH and there's one other good server side language, PHP.
Jeff...
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| May 4 @ 11:52 AM |
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capobeachguy
Posts: 3,549
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PHP is vastly superior if for no other reason than the coder is not locked into Micro$oft.
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| May 5 @ 8:43 AM |
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sealacamp
Posts: 2,925
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Whether or not PHP is better than ASP.NET is a matter of opinion. And I have heard it from both sides. Of course you can stick with javascript and AJAX if you like them as well.
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